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any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:07 am
by callmeslick
You know, the one working through Congress at a breakneck clip? They are trying to come up with about a 1.15 Trillion dollar funding bill for the government, and it sure seems like tax loophole preservation for the well-off, and serious breaks for larger sized banks are going to be a given from this 'compromise'. Anyone else started to look at this whole package?
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:38 pm
by Top Gun
My main comment is "why in the unholy ★■◆● is this monstrosity over 1600 pages."
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:44 am
by snoopy
Top Gun wrote:My main comment is "why in the unholy **** is this monstrosity over 1600 pages."
They had to hide my personal 1-trillion dollar "tax bonus" somewhere.
On a serious note: I have not read it. Tax breaks for the wealthy are apparently what makes the world go 'round.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:47 am
by callmeslick
tax breaks for the wealthy, along with a LOT of other stuff. As noted, the bill is immense. Of some interest, changes to pension payouts to folks already retired, plus the usual local goodies.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:45 am
by callmeslick
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:35 am
by Tunnelcat
Idiots. They also buried in that mess language eliminating some of those pesky regulations on bankers and Wall Street. Out of touch with people does not even begin to describe these guys anymore. Suckups and sycophants is more like it, in BOTH parties.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:56 pm
by callmeslick
some pesky regulatons? Try basically letting derivative traders operate on high-margin borrowing again. Quiz quiz, Class: What exactly triggered the initial defaults that led to the last Financial debacle?
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:44 pm
by callmeslick
here's a fun provision right at the end of the bill(yeah, HuffPo link, but they cite the actual page number):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/1 ... mg00000067
for those of you who are in the trenches of electoral politics, this is a BIG deal.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:46 pm
by callmeslick
to balance out HuffPo, here's Breitbart's list of grievances and pork.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... NIBUS-BILL
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:49 pm
by vision
callmeslick wrote:to balance out HuffPo, here's Breitbart's list of grievances and pork.
Stop being so bi-partisan, you are ruining your reputation. Ha.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:59 pm
by callmeslick
oh, heck, some won't read them anyway.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:43 pm
by Tunnelcat
And Obama wants to get this pig of a bill signed, sealed and delivered to his desk so that he can sign it ASAP.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:48 pm
by Top Gun
And then it was a Barenaked Ladies song.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:53 am
by callmeslick
tunnelcat wrote:And Obama wants to get this pig of a bill signed, sealed and delivered to his desk so that he can sign it ASAP.
publicly, yes, but he has made a lot of qualifying statements that the Dems take as supportive of them pushing the GOP off the election reform and banking law re-writes.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:45 am
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:tunnelcat wrote:And Obama wants to get this pig of a bill signed, sealed and delivered to his desk so that he can sign it ASAP.
publicly, yes, but he has made a lot of qualifying statements that the Dems take as supportive of them pushing the GOP off the election reform and banking law re-writes.
That Obama water bucket getting heavy yet slick?
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:21 pm
by Tunnelcat
Good God! Even Dem Wasserman Shultz wants this thing passed. Some of these Dems are acting like scared little kids. No backbone what-so-ever. Buk, buk, buk, BWAAAAK! Our representative Dems here even stuck in their own provision to keep the Newport Coast Guard base open, which was scheduled to be closed this month due to funding cuts.
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/topic ... 7998.story
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:05 pm
by callmeslick
no one wants a government shutdown. Now, they have to compromise. But, as Louis Black once noted regarding Dems and Republicans: Nothing is more dangerous than when these pricks work together.
Not carrying water, by the way, Woody. That was Obamas statement of over a week ago. He would sign, but would prefer that it not get junked up. He'd prefer the smaller bill that just contains the essentials without changing anything for either camp. He made that very plain.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:12 pm
by Spidey
All us conservatives look the same.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:56 pm
by Tunnelcat
Better hope we don't have another BIG bank failure in the future because taxpayers are
again on the hook. Sounds like they now get to dip into Federally Insured Deposits to save themselves when they lose their cash playing casino. Gee thanks Congress, both Dems and Repubs and
especially congressman Kevin Yoder (R-Kansas). Time to put my cash under the mattress.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/1 ... lp00000592
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:18 am
by sigma
I do not believe my eyes that the US military budget cuts costs
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/ ... 8O20150108
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:40 pm
by callmeslick
we are, by legislative fiat, under a process whereby ALL aspects of government(military and other) have to make annual reductions to some
extent. Not sure you knew that, Sigma, so I pass it along.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:19 pm
by Ferno
callmeslick wrote:some pesky regulatons? Try basically letting derivative traders operate on high-margin borrowing again. Quiz quiz, Class: What exactly triggered the initial defaults that led to the last Financial debacle?
sub-prime mortgages?
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:41 am
by callmeslick
Ferno wrote:callmeslick wrote:some pesky regulatons? Try basically letting derivative traders operate on high-margin borrowing again. Quiz quiz, Class: What exactly triggered the initial defaults that led to the last Financial debacle?
sub-prime mortgages?
not really. They were included in the problem, but wouldn't have been were it not so easy to bundle them into shaky investment vehicles, and trading them along with insurance derivatives.
Re: any commentary on the Budget compromise?
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:22 pm
by Ferno
ah, that's right. I knew there was something else.