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Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:51 am
by woodchip
The DOJ has determined that officer Darren Wilson did no wrong, and the meme "Hands up, don't shoot" never happened. Now you would expect that to be front page news. What do we get:
Ferguson Officials Suspended After DOJ Report Have Resigned, City Confirms
Here Are Some Of The Worst Parts Of The DOJ Ferguson Report
After critical DOJ findings, Ferguson fires police employee
So you get my drift. After the mainstream press and the agitators tried to portray the thug as a "gentle giant" and had his arms up in in surrender, how after the Grand Jury decision and the presentation by the prosecutor was labeled as phony and a cover-up, they now want to desperately cling to the part of the report that shows bias in the police dept. I guess that part makes it justified to ruin a officers career, put death threats on him and his family and continue to portray Wilson as a racist by fiat because he was on the Ferguson police force. All of you who attempted to defend the "Gentle Giant", even after the grand jury report, I feel real sorry for you.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:01 am
by callmeslick
I don't know what the feck you're reading, but my local newspaper basically summed the findings up as:
1. there is a longstanding pattern of systematic racism in Ferguson police
2. Officer Wilson did not act in any way that was illegal, nor inconsistent with his training and peers at the above department.
that's it. Go ahead and whine all you want, but that is all that is being reported here.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:04 am
by woodchip
Stop being a dip. Those headlines come from NBC and CBS. I didn't say anything about the exoneration of Wilson not being in the story. Try reading before you knee jerk deforms your posture.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:28 am
by Spidey
I love that spin….
1. The department is racist
2. The officer was acting in accordance with the department.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:57 am
by Will Robinson
The thing slick won't admit is the whole "
Hands up Don't shoot" meme was based on a complete lie. And the thug Michael Brown's parents assaulted some vendors selling the T-shirts with the lie on it because it was 'their intellectual property'? ...and now we will probably have a riot over their arrest.. Lol!
There is some stinky irony oozing from that mess but the left will shamelessly ignore it and probably still use the 'Hands up Don't Shoot' in their fund raising and rallies.
the only good thing to come from that scenario was the photoshopped billboard...
And this excellent protestors sign:
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:21 am
by callmeslick
since when is anything evident that the victim was a 'thug'? Did he have some long history? No. Was he enrolled and doing well in school? Yes. Once again, you racist loons jump to the KKK version of reality, based upon, exactly, ZERO.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:38 am
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:since when is anything evident that the victim was a 'thug'? Did he have some long history? No. Was he enrolled and doing well in school? Yes. Once again, you racist loons jump to the KKK version of reality, based upon, exactly, ZERO.
And racist loons like you overlook the video of him robbing a store...which is why the police stopped him. Like a good low information voter you spew the cant for the liberal agitators
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:40 am
by callmeslick
so he shoplifted while high. That isn't subject to capital punishment. Just because Wilson's actions weren't criminally liable don't make them right. Once again, how do you turn the kid into a 'thug', without some long record of such? That's right, because you're a racist, and that's just what you do. Tell us how killing a 12 year old in Cleveland is justified? And, on and on and on.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:22 am
by Will Robinson
Slick he wasn't a kid who was 'executed for shoplifting while high'.
As long as your argument requires you take the truth and replace it with that lie in order for you to have a point you will not have a legitimate one.
A thug is defined by his actions and Michael Brown did more than shoplift while high to earn that description from me. How long has he been a thug is not known to me but enrolling in school doesn't make it impossible to be a thug.
So far you have offered a lie and illogical conclusions.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:28 am
by Sergeant Thorne
callmeslick wrote:so he shoplifted while high.
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Yeah, pay no attention to the truth behind the slick curtain... He shoplifted, and then pushed the clerk/owner around when he confronted him about it. I don't know, maybe you have some punk friends you used to do this sort of thing with, slick, but where I come from that's unacceptable criminal behavior, not some kind of understandable youthful misstep. I'm sure the chunky son of a ★■◆● was a perfect lamb when the police confronted him, though...
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:01 am
by Spidey
See, this is improper usage of the term racist, just as sexist is also being used to indict the user, instead of just trying to properly understand the point of view of the person using the term.
So you call a black man a “thug” that makes you a racist. Hell “thug” isn’t even race specific.
This is why the left can never take the moral high ground. You need to pull way too many strings that are attached to nothing to get up that mountain.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:25 am
by callmeslick
Will Robinson wrote:Slick he wasn't a kid who was 'executed for shoplifting while high'.
As long as your argument requires you take the truth and replace it with that lie in order for you to have a point you will not have a legitimate one.
A thug is defined by his actions and Michael Brown did more than shoplift while high to earn that description from me. How long has he been a thug is not known to me but enrolling in school doesn't make it impossible to be a thug.
So far you have offered a lie and illogical conclusions.
one incident does not a thug make.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:26 am
by Spidey
See…that I accept…so why the accusations…
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:30 am
by callmeslick
Spidey wrote:See…that I accept…so why the accusations…
because I see no one amongst the accused willing to call a white teenager shoplifting a 'thug'. It happens everywhere in the US, every day. Many get arrested, vitrually NONE get shot, EVER. It seems that Will and Woody and Thorne are merely echoing the KKK talking points as presented in flyers in Missouri, with ZERO modification. If it walks like a duck, etc........they are racists, and trying to dodge or sugarcoat their words on this board doesn't diminish that fact.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:39 am
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:Spidey wrote:See…that I accept…so why the accusations…
because I see no one amongst the accused willing to call a white teenager shoplifting a 'thug'. It happens everywhere in the US, every day. Many get arrested, vitrually NONE get shot, EVER. It seems that Will and Woody and Thorne are merely echoing the KKK talking points as presented in flyers in Missouri, with ZERO modification. If it walks like a duck, etc........they are racists, and trying to dodge or sugarcoat their words on this board doesn't diminish that fact.
Slick, why are you still clinging to the lie? You are characterizing Brown as someone who was "shoplifting" and then demanding we defend calling him a thug for his act of "shoplifting".
If a white kid stole from a shop the way Brown did AND THEN tried to bully a cops gun from him the way he bullied the cigars from the shop keeper and got shot during the assault of the cop I would certainly call the white kid a thug just as fast!
You are the one trying to sugarcoat the fact that Brown acted like a thug and got shot as a thug. How often he did it makes absolutely no difference in the characterization of what we know he did. What we know he did was a whole lot more than the lie you are still clinging to.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:43 am
by callmeslick
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:56 am
by Will Robinson
slick try telling us what is in the link and how it applies to what I actually said...not to what you want people to think I said...
Otherwise stick to posting funny pictures and telling lies. I'm not going to do your homework for you.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:02 pm
by callmeslick
my link? That's a study that links low IQ to a tendency to support racial biases pitched by conservative groups. How does it apply to your words? Wow, that could take a while, were I too take in the body of work. In this thread, you once again jump to conclusions about a youth(remember the age here) who had one bad day, and cannot defend himself. Not only bigotted in nature, your accusations against the kid are the mark of a coward, unwilling to address such matters with one who can defend himself, or live a life and prove you wrong.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:04 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
I was going to type something, and then I though, "do I really need to defend myself against a bunch of bull★■◆● that slick just pulled out of nowhere?" We'll have to have a conversation in person someday, slick. I suspect your boundless creativity would be more restrained face-to-face. It's not polite to associate someone with backwoods, backwards, pseudo-Christian assholes with no grounds for the association. I might have a little bit of racism somewhere in here, but no more and likely a lot less than most, and I'd call anyone a "thug" for pushing a clerk around and walking out without paying. I'd meet the SOB in the parking lot...
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:08 pm
by callmeslick
so, Thorne, you call one incident(no others have EVER been noted or proven in Brown's case) enough to call someone a thug? Sorry, we must operate on different definitions, as I consider a thug as someone who conducts their daily life in such a manner. Thugs don't graduate high school, enroll in college, or maintain clean arrest records. Basically, thugs aren't exactly pot smokers. Like I say, maybe YOUR personal definition differs, but, if so, do you consider a high percentage of white American young men as thugs, as well?
oh, and in person, I can actually be blunt. This is relatively tactful.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:19 pm
by CUDA
2 incidents....That we know of....
He assaulted the store owner when he robbed him, and he assaulted officer Wilson before he tried to take his weapon.
by definition a thug is someone who exhibits violent criminal behavior. There is video proof, and forensic evidence that he did just that. Twice. That we know of. The analogy is correct.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:45 pm
by Spidey
I’ll be the first one to call someone a thug, I don’t give a damn what color they are.
Its not like thug is the worst thing you can call someone.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:56 pm
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:my link? That's a study that links low IQ to a tendency to support racial biases pitched by conservative groups. How does it apply to your words? Wow, that could take a while, were I too take in the body of work. In this thread, you once again jump to conclusions about a youth(remember the age here) who had one bad day, and cannot defend himself. Not only bigotted in nature, your accusations against the kid are the mark of a coward, unwilling to address such matters with one who can defend himself, or live a life and prove you wrong.
He had one bad day ....that you know about.
It involved two physical assaults on fellow humans, one of them an armed Policeman!
Regardless of how many other bad days he has had, or was going to have, we have to work from what we know about him.
So I
base my conclusion, not
'jump to it'....base it on...the reality.
You on the other hand need to construct fantasy in order to find fault in my conclusion. You are working from what you hoped for him. Or worse, what you hoped was true but not for his benefit so much, but as to support your narrative, that people who disagree with you are monsters. Epic ego at work there.
You are the bigot here. You are the one unwilling to address 'matters', those matters being the reality of the situation is proving you to be wrong.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:03 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:Spidey wrote:See…that I accept…so why the accusations…
because I see no one amongst the accused willing to call a white teenager shoplifting a 'thug'. It happens everywhere in the US, every day. Many get arrested, vitrually NONE get shot, EVER. It seems that Will and Woody and Thorne are merely echoing the KKK talking points as presented in flyers in Missouri, with ZERO modification. If it walks like a duck, etc........they are racists, and trying to dodge or sugarcoat their words on this board doesn't diminish that fact.
And you are echoing the leftist commie view that anyone who shoots a black, especially if they are a cop, is in the wrong. DOJ already said the cop is vindicated so why are you trying to agitate more of the lefts propaganda?
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:06 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:so, Thorne, you call one incident(no others have EVER been noted or proven in Brown's case) enough to call someone a thug?
So if someone kills another person and it is just his first time...I can't call him a murderer by your goofy logic.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:11 pm
by Spidey
Just someone having a bad day.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:56 pm
by Nightshade
It's funny actually.
slick is racist as hell and his way of making up for it and soothing his guilty conscience is to call people that don't agree with his preconceptions of who IS racist by default- racists.
Only republicans/conservatives or people that don't agree with slick are racists in his delusion. The facts are completely in opposition of course.
Left wingers and democrats are amongst the most racist people I have ever met online or in person.
Hypocrisy and self delusion are part and parcel of being a "progressive."
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:22 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
Sergeant Thorne wrote:I might have a little bit of racism somewhere in here, but no more and likely a lot less than most, ...
I got to thinking about it, and I think I should be using the word "prejudice" in place of "racism". Racism, I believe involves justifying unjustifiable prejudice with regard to race/skin color/ethnicity. So I won't say I don't have any prejudice here or there, but I'm no racist by any stretch of anyone's very elastic imagination.
callmeslick wrote:oh, and in person, I can actually be blunt. This is relatively tactful.
I kind of doubt that, but I've
always had a lot of respect for people who are willing to be blunt/direct with me. Talking about things you know nothing about in order to pigeon-hole me, on the other hand, doesn't get you very far.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:08 pm
by callmeslick
ThunderBunny wrote:It's funny actually.
slick is racist as hell and his way of making up for it and soothing his guilty conscience is to call people that don't agree with his preconceptions of who IS racist by default- racists.
Only republicans/conservatives or people that don't agree with slick are racists in his delusion. The facts are completely in opposition of course.
Left wingers and democrats are amongst the most racist people I have ever met online or in person.
Hypocrisy and self delusion are part and parcel of being a "progressive."
wow, lots of BS and nothing to back it up with, by way of facts....huh?
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:38 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:
wow, lots of BS and nothing to back it up with, by way of facts....huh?
Remind you of someone...like you.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:03 pm
by Nightshade
callmeslick wrote:ThunderBunny wrote:It's funny actually.
slick is racist as hell and his way of making up for it and soothing his guilty conscience is to call people that don't agree with his preconceptions of who IS racist by default- racists.
Only republicans/conservatives or people that don't agree with slick are racists in his delusion. The facts are completely in opposition of course.
Left wingers and democrats are amongst the most racist people I have ever met online or in person.
Hypocrisy and self delusion are part and parcel of being a "progressive."
wow, lots of BS and nothing to back it up with, by way of facts....huh?
Stings 'cause it's true...doesn't it?
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:12 pm
by callmeslick
nah, stinks because it's, well, what I said it was.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:45 pm
by Ferno
ThunderBunny wrote:It's funny actually.
slick is racist as hell and his way of making up for it and soothing his guilty conscience is to call people that don't agree with his preconceptions of who IS racist by default- racists.
Only republicans/conservatives or people that don't agree with slick are racists in his delusion. The facts are completely in opposition of course.
Left wingers and democrats are amongst the most racist people I have ever met online or in person.
Hypocrisy and self delusion are part and parcel of being a "progressive."
whee, you can just smell the crazy from this.
Re: Back to Ferguson
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:41 pm
by Foil
The personal "you're a racist", "no, you are" shots are way out of line. This thread is done.
If someone wants to create a new thread about race, that's fine, there are some good topics. But keep it professional.