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just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:00 am
by callmeslick
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:25 am
by Will Robinson
"immediately after" lol
'Senator courts lobbyist money' = dog bites man
He was planning to go stand there with his hand out regardless of the letter and probably had it on his schedule before the letter was conceived.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:29 am
by callmeslick
sure, Will, make all the excuses you need to, if it makes you feel better.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:47 am
by Spidey
I guess it sounds as plausible as the Buffett thing.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:20 am
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:sure, Will, make all the excuses you need to, if it makes you feel better.
Aw slick is bummed because Will did the same thing slick does when we point out the foibles of the Dems.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:40 am
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:sure, Will, make all the excuses you need to, if it makes you feel better.
I didn't make an excuse. I pulled the hyperbole away and left it there in proper perspective.
Your milage may vary due to excessive tire spin
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:21 am
by callmeslick
so you are ok with our nation's foreign policy, and aggressiveness of foreign adventures being dictated by the sales of military hardware? I'm not suggesting that this concept is new or unique, but I've never been good with it.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:42 am
by Tunnelcat
What do you expect? Our government is in bed with the military industrial complex, and they need lots of wars to make money. Sickos.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:23 am
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:so you are ok with our nation's foreign policy, and aggressiveness of foreign adventures being dictated by the sales of military hardware? I'm not suggesting that this concept is new or unique, but I've never been good with it.
Im totally against accepting the false premise you offered with your original post....that the letter the GOP members sent to Iran was inspired by greed for getting cash from lobbyists in the defense sector.
I'm now adding to my
'I'm totally against...' list letting you then propose my answer is a sign that I'm in favor of our foreign policy being usurped by lobbyists since it is pretty well known on this little BB that I'm COMPLETELY against lobbyists and have offered guidelines to severely punish the practice including penalties along the lines of bribing a federal judge.
I've offered the analogy of bribing a judge to be less of an offense than the net result of lobbyists because where a defendant who bribes his way out of punishment gets around the law in a singular event, a lobbyist who buys a law crafted to his purpose gets around the law in multiple instances...
And if I remember correctly you were the one defending them and said some lobbyists were necessary...imagine that...
By the way, they are not. I also offered the proper way for advocacy to present itself to the legislature without having that corrupting access that they get with the campaign donation and 'favors' that you would perpetuate by allowing your preferred lobbyists to operate as usual.
So, no, you got it wrong all the way around.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:13 pm
by CUDA
The White House and congressional Democrats expressed outrage, calling the letter an unprecedented violation of the tradition of leaving politics at the water’s edge.
Jim Wright, the Democratic House speaker during Ronald Reagan’s presidency, was accused of interfering when he met with opposing leaders in Nicaragua’s contra war.
Three House Democrats went to Iraq in 2002 before President George W. Bush’s invasion to try to head off war
Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, went to Syria in 2007 to meet with President Bashar al-Assad against the wishes of the Bush administration, which was trying to isolate him.
LOL the Democrats whining about this like they didn't do it too. snivelers
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:50 pm
by callmeslick
for what it's worth, I pointed some of those examples out on Progressive sites, CUDA. Did not go over well, but the constant obsession over GOP with NO regard to policy going forward doesn't serve anyone.
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:07 pm
by callmeslick
by the way, this silliness pissed off old Joe Biden good(as it should, it was completely irresponsible, and blissfully ignorant about the role
of Congress in most negotiations). This text exchange just leaked out between Biden and an unnamed Senator:
Re: just follow the money....
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:57 pm
by Ferno
what the ★■◆●..?