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The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:55 am
by Tunnelcat
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -logo.html
Personally, I think it hurts the eyes, it's an unimaginative poorly done ripoff of a whole host of other logos out there, it's flat and boring and to add insult to injury, it even points to the
right (I know, it means to go forward, normally. But sheeesh! Even the implication). Either she farmed it out to her subalterns, like she normally does when something menial has to be done that's beneath her attention, or she's just plain artistically clueless.
I also wish the national media would quit crowning her the presumptive queen and stop constantly running around kissing her feet and even chasing her sinister black van like they're a bunch of screaming schoolgirls who think she's some hunky rock star to swoon over. They're acting like there's not going to BE any other Democratic choice this time either. I've even heard that the Democratic machine is squelching all other up and comers so that she'll be a shoo in. God help us.
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Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:26 pm
by MD-1118
tunnelcat wrote:God help us.
We passed that point long, long ago.
Try telling everyone you can to consider independent candidates or write-ins. This can be the year people didn't feel bullied, pressured, or trapped into voting bipartisan. It
has to be, or we're seriously ****ed.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:55 pm
by callmeslick
the Democrat party apparatus clearly does NOT wish there to be a competition for the nomination, but there is going to be one. She might well do about like she did the last time, unless she radically ups her game.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:51 pm
by vision
tunnelcat wrote:Personally, I think it hurts the eyes, it's an unimaginative poorly done...
I think the opposite. As someone who used to do this stuff professionally, I can tell you this logo is doing exactly what it's supposed to and is meticulously crafted, even though it doesn't seem so. That's the brilliance of it. Proof: You are posting about the logo and talking about HRC.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:49 pm
by Spidey
That thing is ugly...
Had to laugh at those comments on that page.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:06 pm
by Nightshade
vision wrote:tunnelcat wrote:Personally, I think it hurts the eyes, it's an unimaginative poorly done...
I think the opposite. As someone who used to do this stuff professionally, I can tell you this logo is doing exactly what it's supposed to and is meticulously crafted, even though it doesn't seem so. That's the brilliance of it. Proof: You are posting about the logo and talking about HRC.
Sorry dude. That thing is ugly.
Yes all logos have to be is memorable- though that logo is extremely forgettable. As much as I hate Obama and what he's stood for, his logo artist was good. Hillary's logo is a stinker.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:33 pm
by Tunnelcat
vision wrote:tunnelcat wrote:Personally, I think it hurts the eyes, it's an unimaginative poorly done...
I think the opposite. As someone who used to do this stuff professionally, I can tell you this logo is doing exactly what it's supposed to and is meticulously crafted, even though it doesn't seem so. That's the brilliance of it. Proof: You are posting about the logo and talking about HRC.
I'm not talking about her in a
good way am I? I think it's too plain and jarring to look at and it still points the wrong way for a supposedly liberal politician, to the
right.
The designer's name is Rick Wolff and he's even named the font
Hillvetica. Gag me. What hutzpa. He gave the queen her own a personal font. Hail to the dynasty.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/artic ... ont-speaks
Here's the embedded link from the above link so that anyone can generate words with this new font, Hillvetica.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... -typeface/
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:53 pm
by vision
ThunderBunny wrote:Sorry dude. That thing is ugly. Yes all logos have to be is memorable- though that logo is extremely forgettable. As much as I hate Obama and what he's stood for, his logo artist was good. Hillary's logo is a stinker.
A logo can be ugly and still communicate ideas. Part of the design process is balancing form and function. In this case, Hillary's logo puts heavy emphasis on ideas over pleasing aesthetics. And even though I am clearly in the minority, as a design professional I could easily write a few pages on the merits of this logo. One of them is reproducibility. You can draw it with no effort at all. Got a pencil and peper? Draw a right-facing arrow and add two vertical lines through it. Simple! Here is a minimal ASCII representation I just made:
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+-+ +-+
| | |\|
|-|--| \
|-|--| /
| | |/|
+-+ +-+
actually has an ASCII logo in the page's source code at the top. It looks like this:
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HHHHHH →→HHHH
HHHHHH →→→→HH
HHHHHH →→→→→→→
→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→
→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→
→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→
HHHHHH →→→→→→→
HHHHHH →→→→HH
HHHHHH →→HHHH
You can abstract this even further. Look, I can reproduce the logo with two typed characters:
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This design is far from "extremely forgettable." It's the exact opposite. It's brilliant. And whether you like it or hate it, you are still talking about it. Hillary is dominating the conversation. tunnelcat can't even talk about the logo without talking about Hillary. The logo is genius. As we all know, the American public only sees what is shoved in front of their faces. Underexposure is why third party candidates never make a dent in the process. If everywhere you go all you see is Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, who will people remember in the primaries? The Hillary campaign machine just squealed it's tires loudly off the starting line and everyone turned their heads. Good luck catching up.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:51 pm
by Vander
I can't possibly vote for a candidate who would approve of such a horrible logo.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:56 pm
by callmeslick
vision wrote:tunnelcat wrote:Personally, I think it hurts the eyes, it's an unimaginative poorly done...
I think the opposite. As someone who used to do this stuff professionally, I can tell you this logo is doing exactly what it's supposed to and is meticulously crafted, even though it doesn't seem so. That's the brilliance of it. Proof: You are posting about the logo and talking about HRC.
was going back onto this thread to ask about that very thing......not my speciality, and my visual response was sort of ,'meh'.......
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:00 pm
by callmeslick
sensing a bit of tongue in cheek, there, Vander?
at any rate, after vision's breakdown, I now realize it is a subliminal math message, "H{illary} is greater than.
OK, maybe that's a stretch. Still, 'meh', but some folks noticed, I guess.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:49 pm
by Vander
The amount of brand management that goes into every candidate should embarrass every American. We should either be embarrassed that stuff like this has any bearing on our perception of a candidate, or we should be embarrassed that our candidates think it does.
Perception management is a hell of a drug.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:47 am
by woodchip
So...are we voting for a logo or a person?
Re: The Logo
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:31 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:So...are we voting for a logo or a person?
In this thread, a logo. I'm pretty sure no one on this board is voting for Hillary Clinton so I don't even know why there is a discussion about her.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:35 pm
by callmeslick
vision wrote:woodchip wrote:So...are we voting for a logo or a person?
In this thread, a logo. I'm pretty sure no one on this board is voting for Hillary Clinton so I don't even know why there is a discussion about her.
true that, especially at the primary stage. I can see her becoming the far lesser of two evils at the General election stage, and I'm on record(elsewhere) as to the opinion that 2016 is a true watershed election as to the direction the nation is headed.
Re: The Logo
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:45 pm
by Ferno
the logo?
meh. kind of bland.