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Angry clashes in South Carolina as Ku Klux Klan and New Black Panther Party come face-to-face in battle over Confederate flag

Around 300 KKK members are protesting the removal of Confederate flag from South Carolina's statehouse
But 400 New Black Panther Party members are opposing them, and slam the flag removal as 'illusion of progress'
Police out in force to ensure the groups stay well apart, no weapons are allowed within 250 feet of the statehouse
The opposing rallies come a month after racist 21-year-old Dylann Roof shot dead 9 black people in Charleston

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... house.html

Guess what would unite both of these groups?

Hatred of the Jews.

loved that pic of the one White Supremacist, confronted by a black counterprotester, and demonstrating less than Supreme bladder control.

Nothing ever changes. I guess people have never, and it seems will never, learn from the atrocities commited against the Jews by the Nazis nor the misery and death heaped upon Africans by white slave owners.

tunnelcat wrote:Nothing ever changes. I guess people have never, and it seems will never, learn from the atrocities commited against the Jews by the Nazis nor the misery and death heaped upon Africans by white slave owners.

What I want to know is what the hell the Jews did to earn the hatred of the black panthers/nation of islam etc. (Though 'islam' name may hold a clue.)

there was hatred of the Jews BEFORE Islam was even created, should you study history.

The question slick, is why the hatred in our modern world.

because, Woody, in our modern world, Judaism has been linked to Zionism and the State of Israel. That state has used terror to establish itself, subjugated non-Jewish residents to apartheid and military rule, and stolen land and water. Thus, the State of Israel deserves much of the hatred it has engendered. That doesn't justify anti-Jewish rallies elsewhere, of course.

this is how humans ought to treat one another, but don't, far too often.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/see-th ... ar-AAddsXB

Maybe that white KKK member will remember the kindness of that black cop and start respecting his fellow man, black, white or Jewish. If not, we're doomed as a species. I do hold some considerable respect for the black cop. He's showing more humanity than most people and he's a better man for it.

especially in light of the fact that the cop is in South Carolina, where white cops have killed several far less objectionable black people in the past three years, a couple shot in the back.

Like I said, that black cop has a lot of humanity. If there were only more............

callmeslick wrote:there was hatred of the Jews BEFORE Islam was even created, should you study history.

Uh, yes. That doesn't eliminate islam as a factor when it comes to various 'black militant' groups hate for Jews.

I think a competition at the lowest economic rung of the ladder back in the early 20th century plays FAR more of a role than Islam. Feel free to study a little history of the east coast tenament slums and get back to me. You seem determined to paint Islam as some sort of universal evil, and you're simply wrong.

callmeslick wrote:You seem determined to paint Islam as some sort of universal evil

It seems islam does a great job of that all on its own.

By the way- do you remember all of the hate brought down upon 'Christian' bakeries that refused service to people seeking 'gay wedding' cakes?

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didn't watch the video......did they behead the guy at the end?

No, they beheaded the idea the gay whiners really wanted all business's to conform to gay standards.

what the dickens are 'gay standards'? Show tunes? Sort of like that old chestnut, 'the Gay Agenda', as if people are requesting that straight folks turn gay or something.....

No, that they wanted all business to cater to gays...but then you knew that.

What is it about baking a stupid cake in a public business that violates a Christian's religion? Is the money that business receives as payment that's somehow now tainted with gay cooties? Next, the bakers will have to cater to those Jews and their repulsive non-Christian traditions. Ewwww, Jew cooties violated my Christian purity!

exactly, TC....I don't get the deal here. You are running a business, someone comes in to order a product you make(a cake in the example). You are providing a product to a customer, not: 1) endorsing their lifestyle, 2)violating your religion or 3)doing one damn thing other than performing a business transaction. If a business owner wants to NOT sell products to people, perhaps he/she needs to look at a different way to make a living. I note today much traction given to some horse's ass in Florida who runs a gun shop and claims he won't deal with Muslims(as if he can tell in many cases). Which, if you think about it, is as much a violation of the Second Amendment as any example the Obama haters can come up with......

Hell, it's not like they ordered a dildo shaped cake or something. It's just a cake served as food, not a marriage contract. It's going to be eaten by the guests, many of them straight, and that cake will eventually end up in the sewers in the long run.

callmeslick wrote:exactly, TC....I don't get the deal here. You are running a business, someone comes in to order a product you make(a cake in the example). You are providing a product to a customer, not: 1) endorsing their lifestyle, 2)violating your religion or 3)doing one damn thing other than performing a business transaction. If a business owner wants to NOT sell products to people, perhaps he/she needs to look at a different way to make a living. I note today much traction given to some horse's ass in Florida who runs a gun shop and claims he won't deal with Muslims(as if he can tell in many cases). Which, if you think about it, is as much a violation of the Second Amendment as any example the Obama haters can come up with......

You'll notice, however, that nothing was said about muslim businesses that reject customers based upon muslim religious practice.

Those muslim bakers refused baking 'gay wedding' cakes and not a peep was heard anywhere else in the media about them unlike the 'christian baker' story.

muslims cab drivers will also reject people that have dogs with them (dogs are unclean in islam) and reject people carrying any alcoholic beverages (because again, islam forbids the use of liquor or alcoholic beverages) even when it's sealed and in luggage (if they know about it) yet you don't hear much about muslim discrimination against normal everyday customers that aren't breaking any laws (except maybe sharia).

callmeslick wrote:what the dickens are 'gay standards'? Show tunes? Sort of like that old chestnut, 'the Gay Agenda', as if people are requesting that straight folks turn gay or something.....

People up here used that argument -- but that was over ten years ago.

ThunderBunny wrote: You'll notice, however, that nothing was said about muslim businesses that reject customers based upon muslim religious practice.

Those muslim bakers refused baking 'gay wedding' cakes and not a peep was heard anywhere else in the media about them unlike the 'christian baker' story.

in the US? Examples please.

muslims cab drivers will also reject people that have dogs with them (dogs are unclean in islam) and reject people carrying any alcoholic beverages (because again, islam forbids the use of liquor or alcoholic beverages) even when it's sealed and in luggage (if they know about it) yet you don't hear much about muslim discrimination against normal everyday customers that aren't breaking any laws (except maybe sharia).

in the US? Examples, please.

I don't really give a crap about what is the norm in London. We are discussing businesses operating in the US.

callmeslick wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote: You'll notice, however, that nothing was said about muslim businesses that reject customers based upon muslim religious practice.

Those muslim bakers refused baking 'gay wedding' cakes and not a peep was heard anywhere else in the media about them unlike the 'christian baker' story.

in the US? Examples please.

muslims cab drivers will also reject people that have dogs with them (dogs are unclean in islam) and reject people carrying any alcoholic beverages (because again, islam forbids the use of liquor or alcoholic beverages) even when it's sealed and in luggage (if they know about it) yet you don't hear much about muslim discrimination against normal everyday customers that aren't breaking any laws (except maybe sharia).

in the US? Examples, please.

I don't really give a crap about what is the norm in London. We are discussing businesses operating in the US.

Yeah, I'd like an example from the U.S. Muslims shouldn't get special restrictions when doing business with the general public either, at least in the U.S. We do tend to be more on the forefront about using secular laws and less about using religious laws in the public space.

callmeslick wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote: You'll notice, however, that nothing was said about muslim businesses that reject customers based upon muslim religious practice.

Those muslim bakers refused baking 'gay wedding' cakes and not a peep was heard anywhere else in the media about them unlike the 'christian baker' story.

in the US? Examples please.

muslims cab drivers will also reject people that have dogs with them (dogs are unclean in islam) and reject people carrying any alcoholic beverages (because again, islam forbids the use of liquor or alcoholic beverages) even when it's sealed and in luggage (if they know about it) yet you don't hear much about muslim discrimination against normal everyday customers that aren't breaking any laws (except maybe sharia).

in the US? Examples, please.

I don't really give a crap about what is the norm in London. We are discussing businesses operating in the US.

The video of muslim bakers is in this thread.

Dogs and alcohol:

Muslim Cab Drivers Refuse to Transport Alcohol, and Dogs
Jan. 26, 2007

By BARBARA PINTO

Commissioners at one of the country's biggest airports are considering punishing Muslim cab drivers who refuse service to passengers possessing alcohol or guide dogs.

The cabbies claim transporting those items violates Islamic law.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2827800

callmeslick wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote: You'll notice, however, that nothing was said about muslim businesses that reject customers based upon muslim religious practice.

Those muslim bakers refused baking 'gay wedding' cakes and not a peep was heard anywhere else in the media about them unlike the 'christian baker' story.

in the US? Examples please.

The video of the Muslim bake shop refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding was taken in Dearborn MI. You still don't understand you have to view the material before making a comment.

thanks, TB for the airport update. Yes, I believe the authorities are correct in going after them, as they are refusiing accomodatation, likewise the bake shop.

sorry, but this just struck me as appropriate:
http://www.theonion.com/article/man-alr ... NA:InFocus