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Can't wait for all the gaffs the Gaffer made over the years get shown on info ads, when the race nears next September. The GOP candidate will have a field day with this buffoon.

go check out his favorability numbers. Go look at a 37 year record in public office. Just ask ANYONE from Delaware, Democrat or Republican.
Enjoy the ride.

No, not Biden. He may be a nice and smart man, but he's part of the old guard in Washington, comes off wishy washy instead of strong in public appearances and has motor-mouth-not-connected-to-his-brain syndrome.

Personally, elections are getting so wacky in this country with the crazy tea party, I'd like to see a Trump vs Sanders race. THAT would be entertaining. It would sure as hell stir things up for once.

tunnelcat wrote:No, not Biden. He may be a nice and smart man, but he's part of the old guard in Washington, comes off wishy washy instead of strong in public appearances and has motor-mouth-not-connected-to-his-brain syndrome.

you clearly don't know Joe, and apparently haven't seen him campaign or speak in public the past 7 years.

Personally, elections are getting so wacky in this country with the crazy tea party, I'd like to see a Trump vs Sanders race. THAT would be entertaining. It would sure as hell stir things up for once.

great, an over-the-top guy with unworkable ideas and a notoriously hair-trigger temper and Trump. Yay.

callmeslick wrote:an over-the-top guy with unworkable ideas and a notoriously hair-trigger temper and Trump

I see what you did there! Well played.

FWIW I think Biden could be a very strong candidate. Both Trump and Sanders have some issues that will be deal-breakers with centerist/swing voters, but Biden will at least be a competitive choice for a lot of them. Probably much more so than Hillary.

if someone is looking for 'authentic', thats Joe to a T. If someone wants to have a leader with real empathy and real principles, Joe is every bit those as much as Sanders(let's not even discuss Hillary in those veins). Moderates put off by the radical right turn in the GOP will accept Joe more readily than Sanders or Hillary. Based on what I've seen over the years in Delaware, Joe even makes a lot of moderate Republicans happy, and given the recent alienation of Hispanic, Asian and Black voters by the GOP, they will be on board, I'll bet, with Joe as much as anyone.


I feel the need to repeat this: note the response in his home state to the passing of Joe's son. No snarky remarks, no cold shoulders for ideological reasons, EVERYONE came out to hug him and shake his hand. And, that last part is quintessential Joe......they(even us males) almost all HUGGED him, as one does as cherished friend. That is the power of Joe Biden. Get over the verbal blundering, the man is a prize among public officials. I can only hope that the nation has come to see this to some extent in 7 years, as we have in Delaware for 3 decades, plus.

sounds like he's an actual human being.

callmeslick wrote:

tunnelcat wrote:No, not Biden. He may be a nice and smart man, but he's part of the old guard in Washington, comes off wishy washy instead of strong in public appearances and has motor-mouth-not-connected-to-his-brain syndrome.

you clearly don't know Joe, and apparently haven't seen him campaign or speak in public the past 7 years.

That could be because I haven't seen much of him during Obama's tenure. I haven't formed an opinion of him other than from his public verbal gaffes and milktoast speeches. I'd still rather see Webb as the nominee. He exudes a command presence when speaking in public that Biden does not.

tunnelcat wrote:

callmeslick wrote:Personally, elections are getting so wacky in this country with the crazy tea party, I'd like to see a Trump vs Sanders race. THAT would be entertaining. It would sure as hell stir things up for once.

great, an over-the-top guy with unworkable ideas and a notoriously hair-trigger temper and Trump. Yay.

It's a joke idea slick. It would be only for the shear entertainment of watching the over the top spectacle of the trainwreck that is Trump. You have to admit, it would not be boring.

callmeslick wrote:if someone is looking for 'authentic', thats Joe to a T. If someone wants to have a leader with real empathy and real principles,

Too bad it never comes out when he makes a public appearance. It hasn't come across while he was VP and didn't come across when he ran in 08. It is a sad commentary on the Dem. party that for the 7 years Obama's been in office the Dems never once considered Biden as running for president. All this while everyone was thinking it was "Hillaries turn" and she was the defacto nominee. Now that she has slit her wrists, trying to put Biden in as her replacement makes Biden look like a afterthought and make do candidate. Sorry but Biden is a loser as is the Dem. party at this stage of the game.

callmeslick wrote:I feel the need to repeat this: note the response in his home state to the passing of Joe's son. No snarky remarks, no cold shoulders for ideological reasons, EVERYONE came out to hug him and shake his hand. And, that last part is quintessential Joe......they(even us males) almost all HUGGED him, as one does as cherished friend. That is the power of Joe Biden. Get over the verbal blundering, the man is a prize among public officials. I can only hope that the nation has come to see this to some extent in 7 years, as we have in Delaware for 3 decades, plus.

As a parent I can feel sorrow for Biden for the loss of his son. As to how people treated him in a small backwater state where he resides, what do you expect? Local good feelings does not mean that is how the rest of the nation views him. And if you see him, extend my condolences for his loss.

hahahahaha. "Small Backwater State". Yeah, the state is small, but that means everyone has gotten to see him, as a person. Backwater? If you call the business capital of the US 'backwater', you don't grasp the concept that size isn't everything.

woodchip wrote: Too bad it never comes out when he makes a public appearance. It hasn't come across while he was VP and didn't come across when he ran in 08. It is a sad commentary on the Dem. party that for the 7 years Obama's been in office the Dems never once considered Biden as running for president. All this while everyone was thinking it was "Hillaries turn" and she was the defacto nominee. Now that she has slit her wrists, trying to put Biden in as her replacement makes Biden look like a afterthought and make do candidate. Sorry but Biden is a loser as is the Dem. party at this stage of the game.

once again, you speculate on the thought process of people you don't bother to understand. Joe was considered not to be running because those of us who knew him best didn't see the DESIRE to run, in his seventies, for POTUS. Much of that thinking was due to the fact we knew his son Beau was ill, quite ill. Thus, Hillary became the defacto nominee. Still is, to many minds. However, Beau requesting on his deathbed that Joe run counts for a lot, and yes, our misgivings about Hillary have been there all along(not some recent thing, I can assure you, in my case). If he runs, he can and will make a very strong case for himself, and joining a Presidential race over a year before the election and several months before the first primary is hardly 'last minute' historically.

Well it looks like Hillary Clinton is planning on chopping The Gaffer off at the knees:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/h ... alk-121818

was just reading that story, Woody. We'll see how it works. A lot of her money support is getting really soft from the sounds of things, and his long-time backers have mostly stepped up. Still not sure he wants to go through the battle, but we'll know really soon. If he doesn't, Sanders is going to beat her, but be a weaker candidate in the General, unless he chooses Veep very wisely.......