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....or, for that matter see anything about them that is anti-Christian, anti-Christmas or inherently anti-anything? Bristol Palin was running around today making the claim that the Starbucks plan was to 'make Christians look stupid'. Damned if they aren't succeeding at that one, at least for SOME Christians.





disclaimer: I haven't gone into a Starbucks more than 3 times in my life. Something about overpriced, ostentatious crap in a cup offends me.

Starbucks offends me.

me too, as noted.

I made my point about this one to Lothar in the "Dearborn Guilty" thread. It was started by some U.K. moron named Andrea Williams, from a group called Christian Concern, blithering to, guess who, Breitbart. He's not even an American. Why the hell this stupid thing has become a controversy is beyond me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sta ... 1d30715b15

I've seen ZERO real people complain about the Starbucks cups. There are complaints, apparently coming from known muckrakers, but no normal people seem to be going along with them.

I've seen lots of people complaining about the complainers, saying that the complaint is totally stupid and that we should worry about real problems. (I think basically everyone agrees with this.)

And at this point, what I've seen the most of is meta-commentary mirroring this:

Me, the other day wrote:Compare the ratio of people you have actually seen complaining about coffee cups to the ratio of people you have seen complaining about people complaining about coffee cups.

From where I stand, it looks like 12 random dudes on some obscure corner of the internet complained about something, and now we're all giving their stupid controversy attention it doesn't deserve.

Billy Jacobs wrote:I've seen *WAY* more people hating on whoever has gotten mad about the Starbucks red cup than I have seen people who have actually gotten mad over the Starbucks red cup

Scott Johnson wrote:I haven't had a single comment condemning Starbucks in my feed, either. But LOTS of comments of outrage, mostly from Christian friends who are upset that other Christians are (apparently) on the warpath and making them look petty and vindictive. But I just don't see it. It makes me wonder if the Facebook "trending" Feed is what dictates what we talk about on Facebook, more than what's actually going on in the world. (Baaaaa! Baaaaa!)

Paul Maxwell wrote:I haven't seen a single friend post a criquite of Starbucks cups. But I have seen a million people patting themselves on the back for not caring what's on their Starbucks cup. I think right now, the Christian cliche is to critique the Christian cliche. It's a new trend for Christians to grasp at the slightest rumor of Christians being ridiculous as an excuse to rant about their super insightful perspective on what really matters. You are not insightful. You are the cliche.

Foil wrote:As of this morning, I've now seen more "meta" (pointing at-the-outrage-about-the-outrage) posts than either of the other categories.

I *think* I find that a positive sign.

Mark Burton wrote:I've yet to see one person in my newsfeed (and, yes, I have some "candidates") who has complained about a RED STARBUCKS cup.
However, I have seen at least a dozen posts about all these angry Christians "out there" who are "waging war" against those that wage a "war" on Christmas.
Is this where we are now? It seems kinda contrived from my cheap seat here.
Who is the puppet master of this old show? Some old wizard of Oz washed up man behind a curtain? Ok.

Mark Burton, followup wrote:I hope everyone realizes...or that my point is...that I've NOT seen super conservative Christians making much about this cup, whereas years ago I believe I would have. That's progress to me.

(Mark is a left-leaning moderate living in Texas, who spends like 90% of his time complaining about the conservative Christian culture he's surrounded by.)

Nicholas Tieman wrote:The original agitator wanted to get some clicks by doing the department stores one better and starting the "War on Christmas" hype train before we even hit Thanksgiving. Internet secularists took the opportunity to bolster the in-group and punish the out-group by spreading the message. Christians defended their identity and signalled their culture savvy by spreading and mocking the message. Christians with second-tier savvy like myself are also curating their identities by spreading the message along with our interpretations of the message. We're all sharing this thing for slightly different reasons but they all have everything to do with making the world see us the way we want to be seen and very little do with effecting any kind of real, positive change.

The worst part is, we are doomed to do this over and over again

The Starbucks cup makes the bull in me mad.

I'm offended by this thread.

It IS a bilious red. There's no accounting for bad artistic taste.

and a PR guy I know from down south says the uproar is likely making Starbucks brass jump with joy.


oh, and while they hardly count as 'real people', as of tonight, Faux News is ginning up the faithful over this, and Donald Trump was working a rally in Illinois yesterday calling for a boycott.

No kidding.

This is going to make sales at starbucks go gangbusters.

Happy Holidays!

Vander wrote:Happy Holidays!

You're offending me.

The lighter side: http://cheezburger.com/676613/starbucks ... -cup-memes