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...for leaving islam- according to muslims.

https://warsclerotic.files.wordpress.co ... -islam.png

You can see where the most 'devout' muslims are by the graph.

I guess Saudi Arabia was left out because the kingdom didn't allow a survey. I'm guessing it's in the high numbers if it were included.

Nightshade wrote:I guess Saudi Arabia was left out because the kingdom didn't allow a survey. I'm guessing it's in the high numbers if it were included.

highlighting the only words in the post worth reading. Face it, TB, you guess a lot of the time and mostly incorrectly due to your own extremist biases.

Slicks typical Alynski attack shows he cannot respond to the content of the OP.

woodchip wrote:Slicks typical Alynski attack shows he cannot respond to the content of the OP.

can't get past that whole schtick your handlers fed you back when Alinsky/Progessives/Activists were the evil threat to America, can you?
The OP was a nonsensical pile of ★■◆● that TB used to justify preconceptions. Would love to see a similar chart of 'devout Christian' responses
from the Southern US.

Speaking of that, when was the last time you heard the term, "Radical Christian Terrorist" spoken by any president or bandied around the news whenever someone murdered an abortion doctor or vandalized and firebombed a PP clinic? All I'm hearing is xenophobic right wingers yell constantly that Obama won't utter the term "Radical Islamic Terrorist", like it's something different from what radical Christians are already doing everyday to law-abiding people performing law-abiding services, people who have go to work everyday in constant fear that these nutcases will murder them just to get their point across at the barrel of a gun, or a bomb. This woman's experience seems far worse than what most people have to deal with everyday doing their jobs, and her PP clinic never performed abortions either, so there's no reason for this crap.

http://hanfordsentinel.com/mobile/artic ... f5177.html

I can say that over the past few years, I clearly see that Islam is conquering the world exponentially. First of all, thanks to the close cooperation between the U.S. and Arab countries. In my opinion, in Russia soon will be more Muslims than Christians. It's good that in the Russian army and police, thanks to the efforts of the authorities still dominates the majority of Christians or atheists. I don't know how long the power will be able hold back Muslim introduction in the structures the highest authorities of Russia, as it has already happened in the USA. Maybe it's time to even the most anti-Russian politicians in the US to think seriously about what would happen to the world if Muslim influence will dominate in Russia.
Masons f*cking

sigma wrote:I can say that over the past few years, I clearly see that Islam is conquering the world exponentially. First of all, thanks to the close cooperation between the U.S. and Arab countries. In my opinion, in Russia soon will be more Muslims than Christians. It's good that in the Russian army and police, thanks to the efforts of the authorities still dominates the majority of Christians or atheists. I don't know how long the power will be able hold back Muslim introduction in the structures the highest authorities of Russia, as it has already happened in the USA. Maybe it's time to even the most anti-Russian politicians in the US to think seriously about what would happen to the world if Muslim influence will dominate in Russia.
Masons f*cking

God forbid. If that happened here, that would give me the compunction to start my own personal and violent Holy War. Islam treats women like property and no better than mongrel dogs, not autonomous and free human beings.

callmeslick wrote:Face it, TB, you guess a lot of the time and mostly incorrectly due to your own extremist biases.

Yes, because telling the truth of things is having an extreme bias.

Nightshade wrote:

callmeslick wrote:Face it, TB, you guess a lot of the time and mostly incorrectly due to your own extremist biases.

Yes, because telling the truth of things is having an extreme bias.

no, you are entitled to an opinion, but the stuff you post avoids the truth like the plague.

callmeslick wrote: no, you are entitled to an opinion, but the stuff you post avoids the truth like the plague.

Alright. Please, tell us the truth about islam and its followers. Are those that are undertaking jihad not following the word of their prophet, muhammed?

I just like the entire premise of that poll. "Self-professed fundamentalist Muslims believe in a tenet of fundamentalist Islam." Holy ★■◆●, what a revelation!

Nightshade wrote:

callmeslick wrote: no, you are entitled to an opinion, but the stuff you post avoids the truth like the plague.

Alright. Please, tell us the truth about islam and its followers. Are those that are undertaking jihad not following the word of their prophet, muhammed?

as with most Holy books, it is the meaning of the word jihad. Most view it as a personal, daily struggle(the word jihad means struggle) with the forces of evil. Very similar to a Christian's notion of struggling with temptations of the World. Most Muslims do NOT view the meaning as having the least to do with harming others, and realize the texts were written in the context of a violent era.

callmeslick wrote: realize the texts were written in the context of a violent era.

And this era is not? What's the jihadist caused body count of innocents at now?

nothing compared to the numbers killed in 2 US led wars, so far, but you make a fair point about violent current times.

So slick you have stats on how many deaths caused by jihadis compared to the 2 wars?

well, Woody, the Middle Eastern press comes up with this for war deaths of civilians since 1980
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/un ... 0-39149394

find me the current numbers if you dispute my estimate, but terrorism, to date, has killed about half a million, tops, over the same period.

I guess it all depends on what source you want to cite. Reminds me of the body counts we had in Vietnam to show how many of the enemy were killed. Problem was, to boost the count, commanders would have 3 or 4 people count the bodies, then add all of them together...even though they were counting the same bodies.

callmeslick wrote:...you make a fair point about violent current times.

No, he actually doesn't make a fair point. Read that book I keep telling everyone about and get educated. The times are not violent, they are sensationalized.

vision wrote:

callmeslick wrote:...you make a fair point about violent current times.

No, he actually doesn't make a fair point. Read that book I keep telling everyone about and get educated. The times are not violent, they are sensationalized.

dropping a few thousand bombs per week into Iraq and Syria isn't violent? What scale you using for that determination? The book makes no such point on a localized basis.

callmeslick wrote:dropping a few thousand bombs per week into Iraq and Syria isn't violent? What scale you using for that determination? The book makes no such point on a localized basis.

Ok, so you clearly haven't read the book and that's Ok. The scale I'm using is an Era, presumably the Modern Era as ThunderBunny implies. You even state that "the texts were written in the context of a violent era," which also implies this era is not violent, or not as violent, or at least not violent enough to spur the writing of a similar book. Do you even know what you are talking about here? The current death toll from civil war in Syria is still smaller than the Iran/Iraq war, which in turn is smaller than the Middle East theater of the two World Wars. Yes there are other metrics of violence, and even those are waning when viewing the Islamic World as a whole.

I might not take it back to WWII, but I was sort of considering all the violence in the past 50 years. Got sidetracked onto more recent numbers by TB, who made much of the violence of terrorists.