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Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:39 am
by woodchip
Rahm Emanual is the dear friend of both Hillary and Bill. Funny how neither bill nor Hillary have come out and told Rahm that he should close his secret torture prison. Funny how the Leftist say nothing about it. I guess when your a liberal and a democrat you can get away with this inhumanity:
There is also the issue of Homan Square, the secret facility that the CPD has used to literally disappear thousands of people, almost all of them stuffed into a virtual domestic black site without charge or access to an attorney. The overwhelming majority of those detained are black. Some detainees have described horrific sexual abuse at police hands. One lawyer who knows what goes on at Homan Square told Mother Jones that the conditions there meet the international standard for torture. Faced with this, Emanuel replied that Homan Square was “by the books.”
Yes,lets believe the Mayor. After all he also had no trouble in hiding evidence of murder just to get reelected:
There is ample evidence that, at the very least, people close to him were aware just two months after McDonald’s death that a video of his killing existed. The video thoroughly contradicted the initial lies that the CPD told about McDonald’s death. The Chicago government then kept the video under lock and key for over a year, crucially allowing Emanuel to win re-election in the interval. After evidence of the video surfaced, made every effort to suppress it—including tacking a clause prohibiting its release into a settlement with the McDonald family—only releasing it after an independent journalist successfully sued the city to get it unsealed.
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/14/rahm_em ... y_clinton/
What nice people Hillary swims with.
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:48 am
by Ferno
oh now you complain about torture...
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:51 am
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:Rahm Emanual is the dear friend of both Hillary and Bill.
really? Since when? Links please.
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:39 pm
by callmeslick
and, before you bore me with the trite and obvious: I am aware that Rahm served in the Clinton White House. What I want proof of are any real friendship, as I know NO ONE who is actually friendly with Rahm Emanuel. He's an arrogant ass, a partisan ideologue, and most every old Dem hand I know is quietly enjoying his travails in Chicago. Why? Because he's one of those operatives who always knew better than everyone else how to run things, but was never in CHARGE of running things. Now that he is, he's finding out that overcoming decades of systematic screwups isn't easy.
Similar police situations have afflicted a lot of major cities. Philly was REALLY bad, and the problems spanned both Dem and GOP mayors. This isn't a party thing, although it's really easy to say, "Dems control the big cities". For far too long, many of these police departments were just running like separate, extra-governmental agencies, answering very little to anyone. That has come home to roost, over time, in many cities. Now, it is Chicago's turn, and like many others, it won't be pretty. At the end of the day, Chicago will be better for the process.
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:05 pm
by callmeslick
oh, and can you please try and remember that no one on this board feels that Hillary is the best possible choice for President, but merely vastly superior in all respects to the clowns oozing to the top of the other party's manure heap.
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:44 pm
by Tunnelcat
Ferno wrote:oh now you complain about torture...
Well, it was also OK for woody when Bush did it to Islamic combatants, even that wasn't legal on the international stage either.
By the way slick, not only was Rahm in the Clinton White House, he also served for a while as Obama's Chief of Staff, unfortunately.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presiden ... d=29087596
Rahm also wants Obama's Presidential Library to be located in Chicago. I wonder if that little plan will be nixed by Obama after all of Rahm's recent little difficulties?
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... ibrary-bid
A few White House staffers however, pulled this nasty prank on Rahm as he was leaving to run for Chicago mayor. Out of spite perhaps???
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /23982553/
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:29 pm
by callmeslick
tunnelcat wrote:Ferno wrote:oh now you complain about torture...
Well, it was also OK for woody when Bush did it to Islamic combatants, even that wasn't legal on the international stage either.
By the way slick, not only was Rahm in the Clinton White House, he also served for a while as Obama's Chief of Staff, unfortunately.
gee, did you suppose I was unaware of that? Actually, and I stated this on the board, the first response Barack Obama got back from me, when my two cents were requested, was my opinion that Rahm Emanuel was the worst possible person to be Chief of Staff if you are trying to build bridges to disparate factions.
Rahm also wants Obama's Presidential Library to be located in Chicago. I wonder if that little plan will be nixed by Obama after all of Rahm's recent little difficulties?
I'm rooting for Hawaii.
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:40 pm
by Ferno
Well, it was also OK for woody when Bush did it to Islamic combatants
Yes, I know. that's what I was getting at. It's perfectly fine when someone he roots for is doing it to other people, but as soon as someone he doesn't like is involved with it, it's suddenly a problem.
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:36 am
by woodchip
Right. As though the type of torture that went on under Bush was any way comparable to what is going on in the black hole called Homan Square. As though US citizens, predominately black, compared to terrorists trying to kill us. But what the heck, since I posted about it, you all seem to think it is a non-issue...especially since it occurs in a Democratically run city.
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:08 am
by callmeslick
nice stretch. Now, tell us about that close friendship and how you tie this dubious theory to Hillary again?
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:16 am
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:nice stretch. Now, tell us about that close friendship and how you tie this dubious theory to Hillary again?
Well as I read this NYT article it mentions her friendship with Rahm a couple of times. Now you come up with something showing otherwise.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/us/po ... genda.html
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:44 am
by callmeslick
you called her a dear friend. The article didn't. Why don't you just change your name(a la TB) to Stretch Armstrong?
Re: Hillary Supports Torture
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:11 pm
by Ferno
woodchip wrote:Right. As though the type of torture that went on under Bush was any way comparable to what is going on in the black hole called Homan Square. As though US citizens, predominately black, compared to terrorists trying to kill us. But what the heck, since I posted about it, you all seem to think it is a non-issue...especially since it occurs in a Democratically run city.
Hope you didn't pull anything with that stretch.