GOP Debate V
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:17 am
I thought this was a decent debate. It seemed to bring out some nuanced differences in their various policies. More so, at least, since the last national security debate.
Rubio was in mixing it up, connected with some punches, whiffed on some punches, dodged some punches, got hit with some punches. He seems to have emerged as the sole establishment/neo-con candidate. Jeb! sooooo wants to be Rubio.
Trump was the most awesome spectacular human being in the history of history. I Thought he did an able rope-a-dope. I mean the greatest rope-a-dope in the universe. We should all be embarrassed and ashamed of ourselves that this guy has such a sizable following. (mmm liberal derision)
Cruz will be the obvious beneficiary of the Trump yard sale. He's like Trump, but his speech is sharper. Cutting. He seems to be a polished, well spoken advocate for the crazy. It's an interesting, mosaic kind of crazy. Like, you have all these little interesting bits of kooky, and then you pull back and see the bigger batsh!t crazy picture.
Christie did ok I guess. I didn't like his line dismissing the somewhat nuanced (and pretty illuminating!) arguments going on around him. They're talkers, you see. He's a doer. The 'Prosecutor September 11' schtick doesn't go over with me, but it probably works for the target audience.
Jeb! is the most bland, cookie cutter politician I've ever seen. At least when standing with that group. He's a Honda Civic surrounded by Hot Hatches. While others around him were scoring on policy, he was trying to score on "tone." Calling out Trump played right into Trump's hands. Bush: "Trump's the Chaos Candidate!" Trump: "Jeb!'s a loser, heh." I mean, Jeb! just isn't equipped to fight the way he's trying to fight. He's was ice skating. They were playing hockey.
Kasich was like Jeb!, but more authentic. He was basically saying the same things as Jeb!, but he sold it better. Not that that matters. This center right Republican might as well be Noam Chomsky to the modern Republican party.
Paul, I thought, made good arguments against a lot of the insanity flying around on stage. I found myself agreeing with much of what he was saying. But then, he was the only candidate on stage not campaigning to shoot down Russian planes, so the bar was pretty low. He also had a solid defense of civil rights, but again, the bar was kind of low with Rubio wanting to deny habeas corpus to citizens when the government says they're terrorists.
Fiorina quoted Thatcher. Cause she's a woman, get it? She didn't make much of an impression on me. I don't think the topic was beneficial to her, be we can probably move her over to the "suspending my campaign watch" column.
Carson is on his way out as well. Mod: "Who do you side with in the policy debate you just heard?" Carson: "You'll have to ask them." What? No.
I didn't see the early debate.
Rubio was in mixing it up, connected with some punches, whiffed on some punches, dodged some punches, got hit with some punches. He seems to have emerged as the sole establishment/neo-con candidate. Jeb! sooooo wants to be Rubio.
Trump was the most awesome spectacular human being in the history of history. I Thought he did an able rope-a-dope. I mean the greatest rope-a-dope in the universe. We should all be embarrassed and ashamed of ourselves that this guy has such a sizable following. (mmm liberal derision)
Cruz will be the obvious beneficiary of the Trump yard sale. He's like Trump, but his speech is sharper. Cutting. He seems to be a polished, well spoken advocate for the crazy. It's an interesting, mosaic kind of crazy. Like, you have all these little interesting bits of kooky, and then you pull back and see the bigger batsh!t crazy picture.
Christie did ok I guess. I didn't like his line dismissing the somewhat nuanced (and pretty illuminating!) arguments going on around him. They're talkers, you see. He's a doer. The 'Prosecutor September 11' schtick doesn't go over with me, but it probably works for the target audience.
Jeb! is the most bland, cookie cutter politician I've ever seen. At least when standing with that group. He's a Honda Civic surrounded by Hot Hatches. While others around him were scoring on policy, he was trying to score on "tone." Calling out Trump played right into Trump's hands. Bush: "Trump's the Chaos Candidate!" Trump: "Jeb!'s a loser, heh." I mean, Jeb! just isn't equipped to fight the way he's trying to fight. He's was ice skating. They were playing hockey.
Kasich was like Jeb!, but more authentic. He was basically saying the same things as Jeb!, but he sold it better. Not that that matters. This center right Republican might as well be Noam Chomsky to the modern Republican party.
Paul, I thought, made good arguments against a lot of the insanity flying around on stage. I found myself agreeing with much of what he was saying. But then, he was the only candidate on stage not campaigning to shoot down Russian planes, so the bar was pretty low. He also had a solid defense of civil rights, but again, the bar was kind of low with Rubio wanting to deny habeas corpus to citizens when the government says they're terrorists.
Fiorina quoted Thatcher. Cause she's a woman, get it? She didn't make much of an impression on me. I don't think the topic was beneficial to her, be we can probably move her over to the "suspending my campaign watch" column.
Carson is on his way out as well. Mod: "Who do you side with in the policy debate you just heard?" Carson: "You'll have to ask them." What? No.
I didn't see the early debate.