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Sign the petition...

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:04 pm
by Nightshade
Erdogan IS a sponsor of terrorism:

LIST ERDOGAN’S TURKEY AS STATE SPONSOR OF TERRORISM; VOID U.S. ALLIANCE WITH TURKEY

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... nce-turkey


I refuse to be drawn into a needless war with Russia over Erdogan's criminal behavior!

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:54 pm
by Top Gun
No.

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:08 am
by Nightshade
Top Gun wrote:No.
Should Turkey have shot down that Russian bomber?

Edit: I just found out Erdogan JUST threatened Russia with occupation a few days ago!
we can can occupy Russia in less than seven days with NATO and our regional allies,” he warned.
http://awdnews.com/top-news/we-can-occu ... seven-days

Erdogan is CERTIFIABLY INSANE!

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:40 am
by callmeslick
I am unsure about Turkey's President, but getting pretty sure that someone else here is certifiably insane. :roll:

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:36 pm
by Vander
Signed!

Can we include the US as a state sponsor of terrorism?

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:57 pm
by Tunnelcat
Vander wrote:Signed!

Can we include the US as a state sponsor of terrorism?
I second THAT!

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:58 pm
by Spidey
We're probably already on a dozen or more such lists.

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:32 pm
by Top Gun
Nightshade wrote:
Top Gun wrote:No.
Should Turkey have shot down that Russian bomber?
No, but that doesn't mean I'm about to throw conspiracy-nut histrionics about the start of World War III. ★■◆● happens, countries get pissed at each other for a while, but then third-parties pull some back-room diplomacy and things go back to pseudo-normal.

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:12 pm
by sigma
Nightshade wrote:
Top Gun wrote:No.
Should Turkey have shot down that Russian bomber?

Edit: I just found out Erdogan JUST threatened Russia with occupation a few days ago!
we can can occupy Russia in less than seven days with NATO and our regional allies,” he warned.
http://awdnews.com/top-news/we-can-occu ... seven-days

Erdogan is CERTIFIABLY INSANE!
Erdogan is another Saakashvili :)


Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:26 pm
by Nightshade
Vander wrote:Signed!

Can we include the US as a state sponsor of terrorism?
Under Obama, it has been...yes. Please go ahead.

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:41 pm
by Vander
Heh!

Fire fighters fight fires.
Crime fighers fight crime.
Freedom fighters fight....

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:44 pm
by Nightshade
Vander wrote:Heh!

Fire fighters fight fires.
Crime fighers fight crime.
Freedom fighters fight....
Palestinian freedom fighters fight freedom. You're getting it!

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:37 pm
by Vander
Do you think Obama is secretly muslim?

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:18 am
by Nightshade
Vander wrote:Do you think Obama is secretly muslim?
No, but what are your thoughts on his religious upbringing? His childhood, not his later years.

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:38 am
by Top Gun
My thoughts are who gives a flying ★■◆●?

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:57 am
by Nightshade
Top Gun wrote:My thoughts are who gives a flying ****?
Vander asked. Ask him.

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:46 am
by Vander
I don't have informed thoughts on Obama's religious upbringing. Wikipedia says his family was generally non-religious, though he did go to a Catholic school for a time in Indonesia. Does his time in Indonesia bother you? I'm honestly curious.

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:38 pm
by Nightshade
Vander wrote:I don't have informed thoughts on Obama's religious upbringing. Wikipedia says his family was generally non-religious, though he did go to a Catholic school for a time in Indonesia. Does his time in Indonesia bother you? I'm honestly curious.
Should it?

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:24 pm
by Vander
In my opinion, no, it shouldn't. But if I had to hazard a guess at your thoughts, I think you think Obama's time in a muslim country has left him unable to correctly view islam as an existential threat to western society. Is that close?

I don't want to guess at your thoughts, though. You can spell them out! I won't call the thought police, really!

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:52 pm
by Nightshade
Vander wrote:In my opinion, no, it shouldn't. But if I had to hazard a guess at your thoughts, I think you think Obama's time in a muslim country has left him unable to correctly view islam as an existential threat to western society. Is that close?

I don't want to guess at your thoughts, though. You can spell them out! I won't call the thought police, really!
You're right. He doesn't view islam as a threat to secular western civilization- in spite of all of the evidence to the contrary.

Unreformed islam cannot coexist with other religions or systems of government. As written in its own texts- in the koran and in the teachings and pronouncements of its clerics- that which is not under the law of sharia (dar al islam) is "dar al harb" or under the "territory of war."

It ticks me off no end when I see people driving around with those "Coexist" bumper stickers because it shows how ignorant (willfully or otherwise) they are of islam. The star and crescent might as well be a swastika because of islam's intolerance and supremacist ideology.

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:49 pm
by callmeslick
Nightshade wrote:You're right. He doesn't view islam as a threat to secular western civilization- in spite of all of the evidence to the contrary.
what evidence again? Can you cite one instance anywhere in the Western world that has shown Islam to be anything other than a discordant voice amongst a tradition of Christianity and/or European culture? That is hardly a threat of any sort.
Unreformed islam cannot coexist with other religions or systems of government. As written in its own texts- in the koran and in the teachings and pronouncements of its clerics- that which is not under the law of sharia (dar al islam) is "dar al harb" or under the "territory of war."
please, spend a lot more time studying comparative theology before your next instance of making an ass of yourself. You are broadly ignorant and insist on displaying that ignorance daily.
It ticks me off no end when I see people driving around with those "Coexist" bumper stickers because it shows how ignorant (willfully or otherwise) they are of islam. The star and crescent might as well be a swastika because of islam's intolerance and supremacist ideology.
and you know what ticks most right-thinking, decent, peaceful people off? Idiots spreading intolerance.

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:20 pm
by Vander
Thanks TB. For the record, I didn't call the thought police.

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:33 pm
by Nightshade
callmeslick wrote:please, spend a lot more time studying comparative theology before your next instance of making an ass of yourself. You are broadly ignorant and insist on displaying that ignorance daily.
Speaking of willful ignorance...

Re: Sign the petition...

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:51 pm
by vision
Nightshade wrote:You're right. He doesn't view islam as a threat to secular western civilization- in spite of all of the evidence to the contrary.
Wait, what?