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anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:35 pm
by callmeslick
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:44 pm
by Tunnelcat
How the hell is
that going to help Jeb? Just the name "Bush" leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Add "George W Bush" and you've got poison.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:37 pm
by woodchip
Tell me why loser candidates try and get their former presidential relations/spouses to stump for them.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:01 pm
by Tunnelcat
Arrogance.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:07 pm
by woodchip
I thought "Incompetence" might have been the better word,.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:09 pm
by Tunnelcat
When someone is arrogant, they always
assume they're competent, even when they're not, so arrogant is a better word here.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:22 pm
by woodchip
Yeah but incompetent sounds more demeaning
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:28 pm
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:Tell me why loser candidates try and get their former presidential relations/spouses to stump for them.
because, sometimes those relations(a certain two term President from the 90s comes to mind) have a GREAT reputation with the public, and are beloved by tens of millions of citizens. The Bush family is not at that point now.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:43 pm
by woodchip
Beloved by liberal democrats. Why do you have a hard time pointing this out accurately?
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:37 pm
by Spidey
I guess it could work, if the family made very careful comments…but what the hell are the odds of that from Republicans.
(remember this is the primary, where they will be speaking to a Republican audience, not the general)
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:01 pm
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:Beloved by liberal democrats. Why do you have a hard time pointing this out accurately?
why should I quibble about a man with EXTREMELY high public support that extends FAR past Democrats, let alone 'liberal Dems'? Actually, liberals within the Dem camp are very lukewarm, viewing both Bill and Hillary as centrist, even conservative. Bill ran on such a concept, and won, twice, leaving office with a 63% approval rating, which has grown daily since he left office. That isn't a limited appeal, but keep your delusions, if you so desire.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:31 pm
by Tunnelcat
callmeslick wrote:woodchip wrote:Tell me why loser candidates try and get their former presidential relations/spouses to stump for them.
because, sometimes those relations(a certain two term President from the 90s comes to mind) have a GREAT reputation with the public, and are beloved by tens of millions of citizens. The Bush family is not at that point now.
In my opinion, most liberals would do themselves a BIG favor by turning their backs on ol' womanizing Bill Clinton.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:47 pm
by callmeslick
see my prior post, TC. Most liberals view the Clintons as centrists blocking true Progressive aims.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:30 pm
by woodchip
Funny how Trump is making inroads into traditional dem voters...like blue collar voters.
Re: anyone think this will prove successful?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:34 pm
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:Funny how Trump is making inroads into traditional dem voters...like blue collar voters.
please, show where. Facts please, not delusional fantasies. His support demographics are pure lower working class white people with low education, and that comprises over 75 percent of his support. That group, in some cases(the NY times pointed this out) are REGISTERED Democrat, but haven't voted that way in years. Further, they have a really poor turnout record.