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Dark side of doing good

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:21 am
by woodchip
At a GM facility in Warren Mi., a daughter started stabbing her mother. A good Samaritan with a conceal carry license pulled his pistol and stopped the attack. Didn't even have to fire a shot. City of Warren is honoring the guy. Now here's where it gets dark. The guy works as a supervisor for a valet company which is a vendor to GM. GM told the hero to get off their property and not to come back as they have a no gun rule at their facility. This lead to the guy being fired. So I guess like in all gun free zones the real bad guy is one who saves the day.

So lets hear again how CCW holders are just a crazy bunch who will start firing wildly given the chance. Funny how the hero in this story never had to pull the trigger. And gets fired and gets escorted off the property like he is the criminal.

http://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles ... sXQNObrpOQ

Re: Dark side of doing good

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:14 am
by callmeslick
a clash of 'rights'. He chose to exercise his on private property, and the matter that he was 'doing good' doesn't trump(Trump!!) the rights of GM to maintain rules on their private property. C'est la vie in a nation of laws. To the hero, I'd say, 'good for you, you might have saved a life, now go seek a job at someplace that lets you carry or learn how to follow workplace rules'

Re: Dark side of doing good

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:09 pm
by woodchip
So your opinion is, if you conceal carry and you see a person's life is being threatened in a no carry zone, that they should do nothing to save the victim instead of risking their job. Good thing some people put saving a life as being more important than their job. Sadly slick you have put yourself up as a person who would just walk on by in such a situation (and don't tell me a phone call to the police is all that needed).

Re: Dark side of doing good

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:28 pm
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote:So your opinion is, if you conceal carry and you see a person's life is being threatened in a no carry zone, that they should do nothing to save the victim instead of risking their job. Good thing some people put saving a life as being more important than their job. Sadly slick you have put yourself up as a person who would just walk on by in such a situation (and don't tell me a phone call to the police is all that needed).
There are always corner cases. Where do you draw the line at the use of vigilante justice, like in this case below?

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-n ... 0613-story

Re: Dark side of doing good

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:32 pm
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:So your opinion is, if you conceal carry and you see a person's life is being threatened in a no carry zone, that they should do nothing to save the victim instead of risking their job. Good thing some people put saving a life as being more important than their job. Sadly slick you have put yourself up as a person who would just walk on by in such a situation (and don't tell me a phone call to the police is all that needed).
sorry, but I value personal property rights. He had no business being on the premises with a gun, whether the outcome was beneficial or not.

Re: Dark side of doing good

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:41 pm
by vision
Breaking a law to save a life doesn't absolve you from a broken law.

Re: Dark side of doing good

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:09 pm
by Ferno
While he didn't break the law (Mich. Statute, sec 2, subsection A), he broke policy. Being fired may have been too much, give the extenuating circumstances. A suspension may have been a better option.