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I realize your minds are already closed to any evidence to the contrary- but Trump will stab you in the back.

The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/02/29 ... epage=true

We'll have you to thank for the misery we'll endure for AT LEAST the next four years.

It's a scary world when I wholeheartedly agree with TB. Seriously, look at what Trump is doing to even our humble forum's basic social fabric!

vision wrote:John Oliver

....aaaaand Woodchip will STILL vote for him (even after watching that video...which I dare him to do.)

And Trumps skit on Rubio is way funnier than what most comedians could do ( from the link just so you know I watched at least part of it TB )

each to their own, Woody, but the point is that Presidential Candidates, as opposed to fifth-graders, do not perform 'skits'. They are supposed to act like statesmen and stateswomen.

Really, than why do they go on SNL and act there. Maybe I should post the vid of Hillary barking like a dog. There's some statesmen like acting.

woodchip wrote:And Trumps skit on Rubio is way funnier than what most comedians could do ( from the link just so you know I watched at least part of it TB )

But I can tell you didn't watch the parts that were actually true about the failure that is Donald Drumpf.

TB, it was some british sounding late night talk show host trying to pad his ratings. Try tuning in to Mark Levin some time and you'll get a different perspective on Trump.

woodchip wrote:Really, than why do they go on SNL and act there. Maybe I should post the vid of Hillary barking like a dog. There's some statesmen like acting.

actually agree with you here.

woodchip wrote:TB, it was some british sounding late night talk show host trying to pad his ratings. Try tuning in to Mark Levin some time and you'll get a different perspective on Trump.

might be difficult to understand Mr. Levin, with his head up Trump's derriere, but give it a try, TB.

Levin has his head up Trumps ass about as far as you do in Sanders.

The republican fear and hatred machine went a long way towards clearing the path for Trump, it is a little late to start complaining about lies, frauds and con artists now.

I think you can say the same about the Dem. machine. No wonder Dem voters are voting for Trump.

Even Canada is scared to think that Trump could be President. Seriously, only the uneducated would vote for him.

CDN_Merlin wrote:Even Canada is scared to think that Trump could be President. Seriously, only the uneducated would vote for him.

I suggest you look up the demographics of Trump voters before you make a "uneducated" comment like that

and when you do, Merlin, you will realize that the overwhelming number are VERY low education level voters. Trump will brag to the contrary, but only when the pool of voters contains very few well-educated voters. Look up the numbers on the electorate as a whole.

however, the overriding trait amongst MOST Trump voters is the appeal to them of authoriatarianism. That should be scarier to most thinking people than the low-education thing. Stupid people who long for a strongman. Loverly!


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald- ... hat-it-is/

by the way, the above link has a sidebar link to another great article about how Progressives have been proven right in all the stuff we used to say about Evangelicals(shallow and focused on control, not freedom).

callmeslick wrote:by the way, the above link has a sidebar link to another great article about how Progressives have been proven right in all the stuff we used to say about Evangelicals(shallow and focused on control, not freedom).

Actually, the sidebar article is a terrible repackaging of a tiny part of an actually-pretty-good article from the WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... angelical/

Actually reminds me of this article I read this morning:

http://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/ ... ne-another

"Many of these bitter social and political wars are also being fueled by bad, inaccurate information about people on both sides.

Now journalists: Where would Americans get such horribly inaccurate information about basic religious and moral facts about the two political parties?

Do you think that American citizens are just making up these errors on their own? Or might these errors be built on how Americans on the left and right are being portrayed in news and entertainment media?"

callmeslick wrote:however, the overriding trait amongst MOST Trump voters is the appeal to them of authoriatarianism. That should be scarier to most thinking people than the low-education thing. Stupid people who long for a strongman. Loverly!


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald- ... hat-it-is/

Just another link to a Dem spin machine presenting faux info to sway the masses. The real uneducated will read a story like that and believe it.

And my statement is in sync with Lothars post.

woodchip wrote:

callmeslick wrote:however, the overriding trait amongst MOST Trump voters is the appeal to them of authoriatarianism. That should be scarier to most thinking people than the low-education thing. Stupid people who long for a strongman. Loverly!


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald- ... hat-it-is/

Just another link to a Dem spin machine presenting faux info to sway the masses. The real uneducated will read a story like that and believe it.

Onoz, reality has a liberal bias!

Actually reality has a conservative bias…

Survival of the fittest…and all that…but I really don’t wish to debate that stupid little saying.

Anyway…

When one party is the “give everyone what they want” party, just what the hell is left for the other party? And it’s not like Sanders isn’t tapping into fear and hate.

I said this before, the only way to truly compete with the Democrats is to become just like them…god help us, because it will be a race to see who can promise more free ★■◆●, and the country truly would be doomed.

At 20 trillion in debt I'd say we're pretty close to being doomed.

woodchip wrote:At 20 trillion in debt I'd say we're pretty close to being doomed.

because, as I've had to point out three times previous today, you don't understand the first thing about economics. We are no more doomed than we were in 1960, carrying a similar debt load to GDP.

Yeah but back then SS wasn't being drawn on like it is today, nor did we have a comparative number on food stamps back then. Too bad you have trouble seeing the overall picture.

Except in 1960 we still had a thriving middle class and booming industry to pay our way out of said debt.

woodchip wrote:Yeah but back then SS wasn't being drawn on like it is today, nor did we have a comparative number on food stamps back then. Too bad you have trouble seeing the overall picture.

once again, the Social Security is COMPLETELY separate from the budget. I DO see the overall picture, and I see that your entire political premise is that the nation is on the verge of disaster. It isn't.

Spidey wrote:Except in 1960 we still had a thriving middle class and booming industry to pay our way out of said debt.

just revert back to the taxation scheme we had in place, and you'd correct that in less than a generation. See BernieSanders2016.com for
details as to how that was done.

Pray tell how SS is separate from the budget when the fund has been robbed dry by the politicians. I guess you forgot Algores comments about making a lock box for SS.

woodchip wrote:Pray tell how SS is separate from the budget when the fund has been robbed dry by the politicians.

actually, there is no evidence that it has, in a real sense.

I guess you forgot Algores comments about making a lock box for SS.

sure, they've borrowed against it, not that I ever put much stock in Al Gore, but that is still the FEDERAL BUDGET, not the SS fund, in reality. There is very lttle needed to make sure SS pays out for another 80 years(at which time, demographics will cover it for another 3 generations or so, should Donald Trump not manage to destroy all civilized life on Earth).

You just keep believing that it was tax policy that created the post war economy…

And I’ll keep selling those bridges and swamp land.

Spidey wrote:You just keep believing that it was tax policy that created the post war economy…

And I’ll keep selling those bridges and swamp land.

not my contention, but virtually every Governmental economist agrees on the point, as does virtually every person I know who lived through the period as a working adult.

callmeslick wrote:

woodchip wrote:Pray tell how SS is separate from the budget when the fund has been robbed dry by the politicians.

actually, there is no evidence that it has, in a real sense.

I guess you forgot Algores comments about making a lock box for SS.

sure, they've borrowed against it, not that I ever put much stock in Al Gore, but that is still the FEDERAL BUDGET, not the SS fund, in reality. There is very lttle needed to make sure SS pays out for another 80 years(at which time, demographics will cover it for another 3 generations or so, should Donald Trump not manage to destroy all civilized life on Earth).

Wow, you really are used to playing to a dumb crowd.

only here. I don't know many Trump voters elsewhere.

Very little to insure SS pays out for 140 years…lol…I’m leaving now…can’t stand too much of this……crap.

/me holds his nose, and logs off.

callmeslick wrote:and when you do, Merlin, you will realize that the overwhelming number are VERY low education level voters. Trump will brag to the contrary, but only when the pool of voters contains very few well-educated voters. Look up the numbers on the electorate as a whole.

I watched an interview that featured trump supporters. They really did remind me of the Trailer Park Boys.

woodchip wrote:At 20 trillion in debt I'd say we're pretty close to being doomed.

yet, you support a guy who will absolutely blow that debt through the roof. Now, I've long argued that the national debt is very much minor compared to the matter of creating a budget that hovers near balance. Further, a read of the financial press recently made me realize that the real issue, and real cause for much unease isn't that the Government owes 18 trillion dollars, but that the individual citizenry owes a total of $14 trillion in personal debt. That last bit explains the appeal of both Trump and Sanders, or at least the public unease and anger behind the appeal.

Slick, you continually amaze me with the extent you will protect the leaders of your party. If you think the personal debt is somehow going to collapse the country faster than the govts. debt then you are delusional. What happens when debt payment/ss payments/medicare payments exceed what the govt. takes in in taxes? Why you have a Detroit with a emergency mgr appointed.