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The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 3:47 am
by Nightshade
“You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident. When you delude yourself into thinking that you see something, you assume that everyone else sees the same thing as you. But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self- destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane.” – O’Brien (George Orwell – ‘1984’)
http://www.westernfreepress.com/2016/05 ... f-science/

"Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth."

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:37 am
by sigma
Read more about history of the Roman Empire

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:25 pm
by Tunnelcat
Nightshade wrote:
“You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident. When you delude yourself into thinking that you see something, you assume that everyone else sees the same thing as you. But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self- destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane.” – O’Brien (George Orwell – ‘1984’)
http://www.westernfreepress.com/2016/05 ... f-science/

"Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth."
Considering WOT users gave this site a big fat red flag, I'll take this with a grain of salt.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 3:36 pm
by woodchip
WOT as in World of Tanks?

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:32 pm
by Nightshade
tunnelcat wrote:
Considering WOT users gave this site a big fat red flag, I'll take this with a grain of salt.
WOT?

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:11 pm
by vision
Nightshade wrote:WOT?
Web Of Trust. It's been around forever. You guys never heard of it? Somehow I'm not surprised.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 12:01 am
by sigma
Cool :lol:
Nobody cares about history of the world, they are interested in WOT)

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 3:53 am
by Nightshade
vision wrote:
Nightshade wrote:WOT?
Web Of Trust. It's been around forever. You guys never heard of it? Somehow I'm not surprised.
Nice... A "truth filter" run by people that have /NO AGENDA/ of their own. I'd trust it about as far as I could throw the country of China.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:16 am
by Spidey
The only thing I found dangerous on that site were some political opinions.

Norton also cleared it, as well as Mbam.

WOT...seems to fit into the story in the OP perfectly, ironic.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 12:15 pm
by vision
Nightshade wrote:I'd trust it about as far as I could throw the country of China.
From their FAQ:
WOT wrote:When someone first hears about the concept behind WOT, their first objection is that someone could easily spam the system with tons of ratings and rate down their competitors or otherwise manipulate reputations, but that's not true. In order to keep ratings more reliable, the system tracks each user's rating behavior before deciding how much it trusts the user. WOT applies sophisticated algorithms to detect and eliminate any manipulation of reputation.
How it works:
WOT wrote:WOT's unique tools are powered by our global community of millions of users who have rated millions of websites based on their experiences. All websites' reputation ratings in WOT are based on ratings from our users. WOT also uses information from numerous trusted sources, such as phishing and malware blacklists, to provide the WOT community with real time information.
I've known about this tool for years. One anarchist friend of mine who owns a business has it installed on all the workstations at his company to help prevent employees from breaking their computers with malware. Their "agenda" is safety.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 1:20 pm
by woodchip
vision wrote:
From their FAQ:
WOT wrote: WOT applies sophisticated algorithms to detect and eliminate any manipulation of reputation.
Kinda sounds like how Facebook inhibits... er "handles" relevancy of users news feeds.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:31 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:
vision wrote:
From their FAQ:
WOT wrote: WOT applies sophisticated algorithms to detect and eliminate any manipulation of reputation.
Kinda sounds like how Facebook inhibits... er "handles" relevancy of users news feeds.
Here's the API documentation, dipshit: https://www.mywot.com/wiki/API

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:10 pm
by Spidey
Ok ok, so can someone just tell me what is wrong with that site?

tc, do you have a list of computer threats, you know like a professional internet security suite gives you?

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 5:32 pm
by Jeff250
It appears the site advertises itself using spam:

https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www. ... epress.com

And probably not a leftwing conspiracy, since:

https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www.drudgereport.com

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 5:41 pm
by vision
Spidey wrote:Ok ok, so can someone just tell me what is wrong with that site?
Yes. Some spam is known to be tagged with the address westernfreepress.com. It's not clear if the spam actually originates from an agent of westernfreepress.com. Nevertheless, there is a possibility that software on the site can retrieve data from your browser cache and use it to spam you. However, the site appears to be safe for children.

Edit: Jeff250 beat me to it!

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:38 pm
by Spidey
Ok, a legitimate issue if true.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 8:09 pm
by woodchip
vision wrote:

Here's the API documentation, dipshit: https://www.mywot.com/wiki/API
Oh look, vision getting all manly by calling me names. Is this what you refer to as critical thinking?

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:10 pm
by Tunnelcat
Spidey wrote:Ok ok, so can someone just tell me what is wrong with that site?

tc, do you have a list of computer threats, you know like a professional internet security suite gives you?
What Jeff250 said.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:36 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:Is this what you refer to as critical thinking?
Did you read the wiki?

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:53 am
by Spidey
I did…

That site might be ok for some people, but is way too subjective for me personally.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 11:34 am
by woodchip
vision wrote:
woodchip wrote:Is this what you refer to as critical thinking?
Did you read the wiki?
Yes vision but I was replying to your insulting name calling.

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 12:53 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:...insulting name calling.
What did you say you crooked hag?

Re: The party of SCIENCE!

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 1:03 pm
by woodchip
Mods, might as well close this one too as vision seems to have a hard time telling the difference between calling a politician a name and a board member a name.