Ryan's healthcare proposal

[callmeslick]

kudos,they did produce a plan. Too bad it ils one that screws the poor in about five different ways and lets the insurers sell crap for coverage. I haven't seen a budget analysis,. but suspect it will add to the deficit,too.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-hou ... bcA1&pfr=1

[Tunnelcat]

Even though Obamacare sucks, Ryan's plan wouldn't solve the problem of out-of-control costs either.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamacar ... 53247.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cure-hig ... 15238.html

[callmeslick]

exactly, TC. Plus, it would burden the poorer members of the senior populace, denying them Medicare until later in life, despite the fact that life expectancy for anyone in the lower 80% of the income scale is not increasing(in fact, by some reports actually dropping). So, all you are doing is screwing over the same poor older folks that you've already screwed over with Social Security changes that are already in place(and were the wrong approach). Moreover, that no-borders crap is a race for insurers to offer the cheapest, but utterly useless policy, with more loopholes for the insurer than can be counted. The exact sort of ripoff that the ACA forbids.

[Tunnelcat]

I've got news for you slick. Elders are already being screwed over. I expect to be paying around $500 a month next year for insurance premiums, way up from the $240 a month I was paying this year. That doesn't include the $400 a month for a medication I might have to take for the rest of my life if it helps my pain, if I can afford it.

[callmeslick]

I've got news for you slick. Elders are already being screwed over. I expect to be paying around $500 a month next year for insurance premiums, way up from the $240 a month I was paying this year. That doesn't include the $400 a month for a medication I might have to take for the rest of my life if it helps my pain, if I can afford it.

oh, I know, but believe it or not, some folks would like to make that look like a mere jumping off point into a full-on assault on the poor. Imagine, folks who pay into SS and Medicare their whole lives, have a life expectancy of 68 years old, but get no benefits from all those pay-ins until age 67? Who's thinking THAT is anything past getting hosed? Yet, wealthy people live to 78 years on average, so they get the benefits under these proposals. Nifty.