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Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:34 am
by woodchip
So back to Aurora where James Holmes was initially reported by left wing news casters to be a right wing conservative, and fast forward the Baton Rouge where another left wing newscaster Pete Williams of NBC says the shooter was a right winger:
He connects the shooter to the "sovereign citizens" movement, a right-wing anti-government group and does not mention "Black Lives Matter" or any other anti-police group.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... group.html

The desperation of the left to link a mass shooting to a right winger is palpable. I wouldn't be surprised if someone on the left will try to get a conservative to commit such a crime just to say,"See it was a right winger that did it". Oh and by the way, the Baton Rouge shooter was a member of the Nation of Islam. Go suck on that Pete. Justice correspondent indeed.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:07 am
by callmeslick
the Baton Rouge shooter was a Marine. The Dallas shooter was in the Army. Just sayin', if you want to link to a larger group........

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:22 am
by woodchip
Well to stretch your analogy even further, both shooters were Americans...so we can equate all Americans are murderer's?

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:17 am
by callmeslick
eventually, your logic leads there.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:45 am
by woodchip
No...your logic does.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:48 am
by callmeslick
you're the one, apparently hung up on political affiliations or other boogeymen, and whining when someone's narrative doesn't seem to fit your preconceptions. I'm the one pointing out that it's just another good American citizen with a gun, fighting back against the perceived tyranny of his government, just like you all advocated for years. That the military trained him to use it accurately is a tribute to the quality of training.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:34 am
by woodchip
So you equate a couple of murders with being "good American citizens". Careful your Dem. handlers don't get wind of your post as it sounds like you are a crazy psycho white supremacist looking to water the Tree of Liberty.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:56 am
by callmeslick
nah, Woody, I'm just repeating what you told me was the rationale for having uncontrolled purchase and public carry of weapons. It was an American's God Given Right to be able to take up arms against an oppressive government. I always replied that such was batshit lunacy, because it was never going to work that way, and you never would have agreement on what was oppressive to whom. And, here you go, a couple guys have decided to follow your chosen rationale, and attack their government. Like how it looks, in reality? I sure as hell don't, and never did.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:03 am
by woodchip
If you want to be that delusional, so be it.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:27 am
by woodchip
Also slick the way you state "the Baton Rouge shooter was a Marine" is as bad as the NBC commentator. Shooter used to be a Marine, not a Marine now. I guess you lefties never got over Lee Harvey Oswald used to be marine also.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:45 am
by callmeslick
ahhh, apparently Woody is not quite the Marine he claims, or he would know that NO MARINE considers himself to be a former Marine.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:47 am
by Vander
woodchip wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if someone on the left will try to get a conservative to commit such a crime just to say,"See it was a right winger that did it".
Heh. At least we know the lengths you would go to blame "the left."

People are complicated and rarely fall into the neat categories we use to define everything.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:31 pm
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote:Also slick the way you state "the Baton Rouge shooter was a Marine" is as bad as the NBC commentator. Shooter used to be a Marine, not a Marine now. I guess you lefties never got over Lee Harvey Oswald used to be marine also.
What's the difference? Once a Marine, always a Marine. I guess they tend to continue putting that training to good use after they leave the Marines.... or Army. :wink:

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:40 pm
by callmeslick
never known an Army guy to feel that way, except for the couple of career guys I've met, but every Marine I've ever known was STILL a Marine, and generally made it well known, even if they'd served 4 years 40 years ago. Justifiably proud, from the character of most I've known. Like any group, there are outliers.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:01 pm
by callmeslick
draw your own conclusions from the shooters own public records:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingn ... li=BBnbcA1

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:58 pm
by Ferno
tunnelcat wrote: What's the difference? Once a Marine, always a Marine.
And in there lies the rub. He would know that if he served.

Re: Getting it Right

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:09 pm
by Spidey
Philosophy vs. a technical point…pfffft

Each has its time and place.