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Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:38 am
by woodchip
In PA there is a surge of support for Trump. Surprisingly a lot is coming from Hispanics:
“I saw a couple of 14-year-old girls trying to register people to vote,” says Max Garcia, president of Telekaribe, a 24 hour a day Hispanic TV station that broadcasts from Hazleton. “The Clinton campaign’s ground game here is not very serious.”
https://www.ft.com/content/fef42a12-7b1 ... 93b105145e

So much for the Dems fabled organizational clout.

And in MI Hillary's lead of 11 points is now down to 3 pts:
WASHINGTON – A month after it appeared the race for president in Michigan might be all but over, Republican Donald Trump has cut deeply into Democrat Hillary Clinton’s post-convention lead, with an exclusive new Free Press/WXYZ-TV poll showing Trump has moved closer to tying Clinton in a state that hasn't backed a Republican nominee since 1988.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politic ... /90381296/

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:09 am
by callmeslick
Clinton will win PA by at least 8 percent. I near guarantee it. Here's why: despite this BS above, Hispanic and Black turnout will be high and massively anti-Trump. Combined, with as much of a plurality as Obama saw, which was pretty big. More importantly, the only way a Republican wins in PA, and plenty have, is to do well in the Philly Suburbs and the bedroom communities of the northeast corner of the state. McCain broke even, and lost by 7 percent, Romney carried those places by around 5 or 6% and still lost the state by 3%. Trump, in my nearby Chester and Delaware county suburbs, is losing by 27%, and he's losing the rest by smaller margins. He's toast.

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:50 am
by Tunnelcat
Paywall woody. No info. Although I did find this, which unfortunately links to your original site, and Drudge, who's a partisan hack, so one source isn't the definitive answer. :wink:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3470041/posts

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:09 am
by woodchip
As slick oft replies about MSN, Drudge is nothing more than a portal... :)

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:02 pm
by callmeslick
no comparison, but I've grown accustomed to Woody's urge to lie to our collective faces.

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:30 pm
by woodchip
Because you say it is a lie does not make it so. Show me where Drudge is any different than your MSN

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:27 pm
by Jeff250
You can read about it here. In fact, the first sentence is "MSN (stylized as msn) is a web portal..." Remember, MSN isn't the same thing as MSNBC in the same way that a car is different from a carp.

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:45 pm
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote:As slick oft replies about MSN, Drudge is nothing more than a portal... :)
Doesn't matter. Still no details on the story anywhere else. It might as well be FUD.

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:13 pm
by woodchip
What story as you are quoting me?

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:22 pm
by Tunnelcat
The original one from the Financial Times, since they won't show me the full story without a subscription.

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:20 am
by woodchip
Try this link, then try link at top:

http://www.scoopnest.com/user/DRUDGE_RE ... 9143819265

Came up for me even tho my OP link doesn't work.

Re: Canary in the Coal Mine

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:35 pm
by Tunnelcat
Finally read the story. One thing I did notice was that mostly the white populations in those towns are pro-Trump. Not the Dominicans nor the Hispanics. I guess where Clinton would lose is if she doesn't get a ground game going in Pennsylvania and those 2 immigrant populations didn't go to the polls in large numbers to vote for her in November. That may happen because she's just not a very likeable candidate to a lot of the voters who would normally vote the Dem ticket. I keep telling slick, selecting Clinton was the Dems biggest mistake this election.