veep debate thoughts
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:30 pm
in no particular order.....I'm sleepy, and waiting for the dog to finish in the yard before bed:
1. Pence won on style. Oddly, he was less attack dog than often, and Kaine was clearly sent out in attack dog mode, possibly with a double cappucino, which seemed to wear off midway through to some extent.
2. I guess everyone agreed to the format, but the short time per segment basically cut both of them short just when they were getting into gear
3. You really didn't get to much about the readiness of each of the two, but both were forced to defend the running mate, more than usual, it seemed.
4. The faith question was well handled from two clear ideological perspectives, by both men. At that point, I was, frankly, proud that both of them had
risen in US politics, as they both seemed to be profoundly decent men.
5. I don't think this changed many minds, and was sort of shocked to see the CNN independants focus group go to Kaine so heavily. Then, I realized
that they were Virginians, so maybe that mattered.
6. For years here, I've been begging the US to finally have a national election around the fundamentals of modern conservative and modern liberal thinking, using those terms in broad fashion. I openly suggested that I'd like to see a Cruz v Biden election a year ago, with that hope of a REAL debate, on some fundamental sources of divide and unproductive national direction. Now, I'd very easily see Mike Pence as an excellent presenter, probably far more personally palatable than Cruz, of the Conservative side. He might have set himself up, for which I now understand and appreciate his decision to run. Remember, this is a guy projected to lose his re-election bid in Indiana. He may have seriously prolonged his career tonight. He didn't likely tug many heartstrings with the people he and Trump need to pull onto the boat, but won friends who will donate heavily down the road towards 2020.
1. Pence won on style. Oddly, he was less attack dog than often, and Kaine was clearly sent out in attack dog mode, possibly with a double cappucino, which seemed to wear off midway through to some extent.
2. I guess everyone agreed to the format, but the short time per segment basically cut both of them short just when they were getting into gear
3. You really didn't get to much about the readiness of each of the two, but both were forced to defend the running mate, more than usual, it seemed.
4. The faith question was well handled from two clear ideological perspectives, by both men. At that point, I was, frankly, proud that both of them had
risen in US politics, as they both seemed to be profoundly decent men.
5. I don't think this changed many minds, and was sort of shocked to see the CNN independants focus group go to Kaine so heavily. Then, I realized
that they were Virginians, so maybe that mattered.
6. For years here, I've been begging the US to finally have a national election around the fundamentals of modern conservative and modern liberal thinking, using those terms in broad fashion. I openly suggested that I'd like to see a Cruz v Biden election a year ago, with that hope of a REAL debate, on some fundamental sources of divide and unproductive national direction. Now, I'd very easily see Mike Pence as an excellent presenter, probably far more personally palatable than Cruz, of the Conservative side. He might have set himself up, for which I now understand and appreciate his decision to run. Remember, this is a guy projected to lose his re-election bid in Indiana. He may have seriously prolonged his career tonight. He didn't likely tug many heartstrings with the people he and Trump need to pull onto the boat, but won friends who will donate heavily down the road towards 2020.