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It looks like the United States have managed to provoke almost the Cuban missile crisis 2.0

Russian Defense Ministry has made a "last warning" to US military about the consequences of the application of blows to the position of the Syrian government troops

P.S. Without translation, because I think you can translate better.

https://ria.ru/syria/20161006/1478666453.html

I guess we'd better not vote for Trump/Pence then if we don't want WWIII. Pence declared during the debates that he'd be tough on Russia and go ahead and bomb Syrian forces to save civilians no matter the consequences.

And with all the strife in the world I'm wondering if Obama shouldn't give back his Nobel Peace Medal

The only big current world strife is happening in the Middle East, a perpetual area of tensions anyway, that royally blew up in our face because of the actions of President Bush, not Obama. Since Obama hasn't already bombed Russia because of previous and current Russian actions in Crimea and Syria, like Mr. Pence said he'd actually do as a show of strength, says a lot about keeping his cool in the face of aggression. Also, the fact Obama removed our troops from Iraq like the American people and the Iraqi government wanted back then, which was also in compliance with Bush's original phase-out plan, I'd say he deserves that medal.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/st ... raddatz-c/

Getting a peace prize for NOT doing anything, I don’t know…seems a little dubious at best.

I didn’t kill anybody today…where is mine?

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If Obama wants to earn that medal, let him restart talks with Russia, and keep them going even when the times get rough.

tunnelcat wrote:I guess we'd better not vote for Trump/Pence then if we don't want WWIII. Pence declared during the debates that he'd be tough on Russia and go ahead and bomb Syrian forces to save civilians no matter the consequences.

No TC. You don't want to vote for Hillary. She will continue the path to WWIII that Obama has us on (provided it doesn't break out before the next president takes office.)

Tump will back off. He sounds a lot more isolationist/pacifist in military matters despite his supposed xenophobia.

he 'sounds' like whatever he wishes any given day, because idiots like NS will fall for it.

Nightshade wrote:

tunnelcat wrote:I guess we'd better not vote for Trump/Pence then if we don't want WWIII. Pence declared during the debates that he'd be tough on Russia and go ahead and bomb Syrian forces to save civilians no matter the consequences.

No TC. You don't want to vote for Hillary. She will continue the path to WWIII that Obama has us on (provided it doesn't break out before the next president takes office.)

Tump will back off. He sounds a lot more isolationist/pacifist in military matters despite his supposed xenophobia.

Hillary is a post menopausal woman who's probably on estrogen hormone therapy in order to keep active. She'd be pretty passive, unless she's gone cold turkey, in which case all bets are off.

Trump on the other hand is a dye-in-the-wool temperamental bully colored by shades of ego-maniacal narcissism. He'd be far more likely to take even a minor insult as a big slight that needs some type of manly response, in other words, either fight to win or turn your shoulder and lose face. Trump was actually jealous of his running mate doing a better job debating than he did. THAT'S a thin skin and a ego that needs pumping up. I'd say Hillary's skin is far tougher stuff and definitely would not let little piddling crap like that bother her. Look at all the crap she's had to put up with for YEARS from all those vindictive crazy Republicans? Most weaker people would have folded by now.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... s_say.html

I see the Russian legislature has voted to maintain a presence in Syria 'indefinitely'. Enjoy your stay, boys, it's not all going to be bombing civilian hospitals, especially not 'indefinitely'. See, it isn't only Americans who easily forget the price of fecking around where we don't understand.

The only "good" thing, for us, is that the fanatic radicals who currently see the U.S. as infidels to kill, might now turn towards Russia as the new target for Jihad.

precisely, TC. And Russia doesn't exactly have endless cash for this little project, either.

Well, we need to sit back and let nature take it's course then, instead of frothing on at the mouth.

note, only one side of the US spectrum is frothing at the mouth.

callmeslick wrote:note, only one side of the US spectrum is frothing at the mouth.

Yes, the left side where slick calls home.

then, how come the only ones who manage to talk about it are the right wing nutcases?

callmeslick wrote:precisely, TC. And Russia doesn't exactly have endless cash for this little project, either.

Seems slick has no idea what is the Russian mentality Never too late to learn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_2





- What is the strength, brother?

...

- I think the power is in the truth. Who is right - that is stronger.

Afghanistan?

You'd think more people would have seen The Princess Bride by this point. "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia.'..."

callmeslick wrote:Afghanistan?

Listen, Slick, don't you think, when you protect USA from a sense of false patriotism, you're protecting a handful of high-ranking american maniacs who constantly crave human blood, which created, sponsored, and continue to contribute to the spread of terrorism around the world from the world's largest epicenter of the terrorist threat, constantly justifying and consoling himself by so-called national interests of the USA and the mythical Russian aggression, which is just a journalistic malarkey in the best traditions of the tabloids? You are able to understand what you are today to support and justify the ideology of terrorism?

If you will start now to talk about the brutal suppression of dissidents today as in Russia, as in the United States, as in the Middle East , it is better not to think about it because it's really very similar to the prewar state of the world before the great war, as in 1938-39 the last century.
Now of course you find it hard to imagine that for you burger with radioactive rats will seem like a gift of the Lord God, if you can survive after the first explosions and very soon fight for survival for food and water in the shelter...

So what were you saying about Afghanistan?

sigma wrote:

callmeslick wrote:Afghanistan?

Listen, Slick, don't you think, when you protect USA from a sense of false patriotism, you're protecting a handful of high-ranking american maniacs who constantly crave human blood, which created, sponsored, and continue to contribute to the spread of terrorism around the world from the world's largest epicenter of the terrorist threat, constantly justifying and consoling himself by so-called national interests of the USA and the mythical Russian aggression, which is just a journalistic malarkey in the best traditions of the tabloids? You are able to understand what you are today to support and justify the ideology of terrorism?

no

If you will start now to talk about the brutal suppression of dissidents today as in Russia, as in the United States, as in the Middle East , it is better not to think about it because it's really very similar to the prewar state of the world before the great war, as in 1938-39 the last century.
Now of course you find it hard to imagine that for you burger with radioactive rats will seem like a gift of the Lord God, if you can survive after the first explosions and very soon fight for survival for food and water in the shelter...

you and NightShade have to get together for nachos. Seriously, you do.

So what were you saying about Afghanistan?

that you nitwits didn't learn anything, apparently. What your response has to do with that eludes me.

callmeslick wrote:

sigma wrote:

callmeslick wrote:Afghanistan?

Listen, Slick, don't you think, when you protect USA from a sense of false patriotism, you're protecting a handful of high-ranking american maniacs who constantly crave human blood, which created, sponsored, and continue to contribute to the spread of terrorism around the world from the world's largest epicenter of the terrorist threat, constantly justifying and consoling himself by so-called national interests of the USA and the mythical Russian aggression, which is just a journalistic malarkey in the best traditions of the tabloids? You are able to understand what you are today to support and justify the ideology of terrorism?

no

In other words, you think it is American democracy. In this case, you have no right to even to hint about "the dictators" in other countries because you are yourself living in a totalitarian state so that you are forced to lie even to himself.

callmeslick wrote:

sigma wrote:If you will start now to talk about the brutal suppression of dissidents today as in Russia, as in the United States, as in the Middle East , it is better not to think about it because it's really very similar to the prewar state of the world before the great war, as in 1938-39 the last century.
Now of course you find it hard to imagine that for you burger with radioactive rats will seem like a gift of the Lord God, if you can survive after the first explosions and very soon fight for survival for food and water in the shelter...

you and NightShade have to get together for nachos. Seriously, you do.

That is, you refuse to accept reality for what it really is. Why I am not surprised.

callmeslick wrote:

sigma wrote:So what were you saying about Afghanistan?

that you nitwits didn't learn anything, apparently. What your response has to do with that eludes me.

It looks like you're not even able to understand what you see in the mirror.

Actually, despite the fact that I'm an atheist with the scientific worldview, I sometimes check the predictions of ancient thinkers and hypotheses cyclical world history. So, it seems, in the next 14 years we will not face WWIII. Perhaps more likely, it will happen in 2025, plus or minus two or three years. At least for me personally, it is will a kind of joy (matter how monstrous it may sound) and I will die with peace of mind, if once again confirmed this theory, as it will be an occasion for serious scientific research. Though of course in this case there is one big disadvantage that simply no one and have no time to explore and study it for quite a long time, because we are again back to the Stone Age. That's really worse than war...