Orange Creep

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:17 pm

Trump has got to be the biggest lewd pig of a man to ever run for president, at least since Bill Clinton. It seems that women are just pieces of meat for pawing over to our esteemed Mr. Oversexed Trump. No decorum or shame whatsoever. There goes the women vote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Plus, he's on paper record as a racist bigot. Remember the Central Park Five? He was so sure of their guilt back when the vicious Central Park rape occurred that he spent almost $100,000 to run 4 full page ads in New York Newspapers demanding the death penalty be brought back to deal with the problem of roving bands of criminals (black criminals was the subtext back then) in one of his early racially motivated "Law and Order" political forays. After the five men were later exonerated by DNA evidence and the real culprit caught, he continues to this day to insist he was right all along about their guilt, I guess to save face. To add insult to injury, he still won't apologize to the falsely accused men for running those ads either. There goes the black vote.

http://fusion.net/story/355118/trump-ce ... m-apology/

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:40 pm

it's over. He's done. Absolutely finished. At this point, the general election will simply be a public survey of how many actual complete assholes we have in the population. Starting the day with claiming 5 men declared innocent years ago(the Central Park 5, all black by the way) were really guilty of murder and rape, and ending with a video dagger through the heart, this is one for the books. Anyone, at this point, who can justify voting for Trump has NO MORALS whatsoever. It's that simple. Not about Hillary, not about change,not about ideology, not about socialism, not about guns.....this election is a simple question: will you knowingly vote for a proven misogynist, sexual predator, racist and bully, knowing beforehand they are(acknowledging that history has shown such folks have gotten elected, but always without public awareness)?? If so, whether you like my characterization above or not, you are one. It will be convenient for future progress to have an accurate count going forward.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:49 pm

I talked to my female neighbor just a few hours ago who's been a consistant Christian Republican voter. She's now not going to vote for Trump in any way, shape or form and even she was on the fence before this little nastiness came out. Whether she votes for Hillary or not, she really wouldn't say, but I got the impression that she's so disgusted with Trump that she's going to secretly vote for Hillary out of spite.

EDIT: Lawrence O'Donnell finally had comments on the story of Trump and the Central Park Five. First time I've heard more about it. This one might be the final nail in Trump's coffin. Ken Burns just told O'Donnell that Trump's continued insistance that the Central Park Five are quilty shows a supreme lack of empathy. There's is also a PBS documentary that might get shown again. Good job Trump.

Also, Trump is soon supposed to release an on camera video statement, a rarity for Trump. This will be good.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:23 pm

out of the Brooklyn arts community tonight. You may see more of this type of poster:

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:35 pm

Where do you come up with this stuff slick?

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:27 pm

90 seconds, a one word apology and the bastard tripled down by blaming Bill Clinton, Hillary, that this whole thing is only a distraction, this means war and see you at the debates. He says that video is not the real him my ass. Once an ass, always an ass. That old tape clearly showed us he's got a predatory behavior problem, not just a word problem. Personally, I think it showed us the real Trump that women have been complaining about for years, women who had no proof. A lewd, crude slimeball who thinks of women as personal playthings. A man who doesn't deserve our vote for the highest office in the land. No false contrition hostage video is going to change that fact.

No Republican who's pulled their support since this went down has changed their mind with Trump's supposed apology either.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:47 am

tunnelcat wrote: Where do you come up with this stuff slick?

the above was produced, rather quickly, by a feminist artist collective out of Brooklyn.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:49 am

TC.--don't you love the 'apology', and the bravado? As if Hillary's Opp Research people don't have the outtake footage from the Apprentice waiting in the wings?

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:41 am

callmeslick wrote:out of the Brooklyn arts community tonight. You may see more of this type of poster:

He (Bill) said Hillary ate more pussy than she did. Jennifer Flowers.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:29 am

Bill isn't running.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:38 am

They're a team so yes he is.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:57 am

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:58 am

woodchip wrote:They're a team so yes he is.

stench of desperation grows hourly.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:11 am

woodchip wrote:They're a team so yes he is.

Yeah, but Bill was already impeached for the shenanigans he did. He's already paid the price and by association, so did Gore. It's turn about fair play. It's now Trump's turn to lose out on his presidential bid for being a lewd, pervert of a man with absolutely no moral compass. Evangelicals are throwing a fit too, so there goes the Christian vote. Remember, privacy is the same as alcohol. Both tend to reveal the truth about someone and denials are always lies. Remember that line: "I did NOT have sex with that woman", when Bill really did. So when Trump denied he'd had inappropriate interactions with women who were not his wife, he was LYING too.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:22 am

I'd llike to know how much money is changing hands right now into some Swiss Account in order to prevent Melania from walking out with the son before the election and filing for divorce and a restraining order.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:53 pm

Well, either Melania loves her husband no matter what, or she loves the power and cash associated with sticking by Trump. This is kind of like Hillary's situation with Bill. Either she truly loved Bill back then, or stuck around just for the power and prestige. Personally, I would have dumped Donald or Bill in either of their situations, with a big alimony settlement just to get on with my life. They're both a couple of jackasses.

http://fox4kc.com/2016/10/08/melania-tr ... -drop-out/

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:17 pm

I just heard on TV that Trump is doubling down. He's not going to quit. This means WAR. He's even going to start an internet movement called "MoveOver" dot something, in the same vein as MoveOn.org.

And women on the street in front of that Wisconsin rally where Trump was dis-invited are saying that Trump's perverted dalliances are old news, a normal male thing and it's nothing that will stop them from supporting Trump. What a bunch of idiots. They're also booing Paul Ryan as I type. Women sure have forgotten what it was like for most women before the 1960's feminist movement. Welcome to the new casting couch of the 1950's gals. It'll be a ride, in more ways than one.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:01 pm

callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:They're a team so yes he is.
stench of desperation grows hourly.

the answer from a man who can't defend himself. Can't take it you're probably a closet Trump when you talk to your buddies about female conservatives.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:04 pm

tunnelcat wrote:
woodchip wrote:They're a team so yes he is.
Yeah, but Bill was already impeached for the shenanigans he did. He's already paid the price and by association, so did Gore. It's turn about fair play. It's now Trump's turn to lose out on his presidential bid for being a lewd, pervert of a man with absolutely no moral compass. Evangelicals are throwing a fit too, so there goes the Christian vote. Remember, privacy is the same as alcohol. Both tend to reveal the truth about someone and denials are always lies. Remember that line: "I did NOT have sex with that woman", when Bill really did. So when Trump denied he'd had inappropriate interactions with women who were not his wife, he was LYING too.

Bill paid no real price, just ask Juanita Broaddrick.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:10 pm

I think TC, both you and slick have forgotten what this race is about. It's not man against women or who has smutty language. It's all about the status quo against someone who is out side the beltway. Slick wants the status quo even it means the country goes to war because Hillary doesn't know what she is doing. The vast majority of people are tired of the status quo and want someone outside the loop to run things for a change. All one has to do is look at the crowds either candidate draws. Polls know nothing John Snow.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:20 pm

the race MIGHT have been about other things, Woody, but at this stage, it is a pure referendum on the fitness for office of Donald Trump.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:06 pm

woodchip wrote:I think TC, both you and slick have forgotten what this race is about. It's not man against women or who has smutty language. It's all about the status quo against someone who is out side the beltway. Slick wants the status quo even it means the country goes to war because Hillary doesn't know what she is doing. The vast majority of people are tired of the status quo and want someone outside the loop to run things for a change. All one has to do is look at the crowds either candidate draws. Polls know nothing John Snow.

I don't want the status quo either. However, either main choice is putrid. Pick one turd or another. But personally, I think Trump is the worst example of a human being to ever be considered for the position of president. Period. He's an narcissistic egomaniac ★■◆● who's snookered every working class person out there with his siren song of change. If you think that Trump is going to look out for your best interests and fix our problems the way you want, you're deluded and will eventually suffer from buyers remorse. The man is patently unfit as a businessman and unfit to lead this country. He's going to look out only for himself and his wealthy brethren when and if he gets the power. I wouldn't vote for him if my life depended on it. If he ever tried to do some of those nice moves on me that he boasted about in that video, I'd deck him in a heartbeat. He'd deserve it.

As for Hillary, I loathe her to the very core of my being, for a lot of the same reasons you have woody. She's insular, secretive and arrogant. She's a Clinton, bringing back in another old despicable Clinton. The only thing going for her is that she's got a level head and actually some experience in government. Plus, she has Tim Kaine as a healthy liberal running mate. The fact she's a woman isn't going to help her this time around, unless more Trump lewdness comes out in the weeks to ahead and women finally figure out that he's nothing but a horny, oversexed, vain slob of a cad who doesn't have their best interests in mind.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:38 pm

And women are attracted to the bad boy types

Bull dykes need not apply.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:32 pm

woodchip wrote:And women are attracted to the bad boy types Bull dykes need not apply.

Only the stupid ones with no brains, no self worth, no money and big tits. Any smart woman, no matter how she looks, would steer clear of a man who believes sexual assualt is just a fun locker room game. Believe me, what Trump was bragging in that video about constitutes sexual assault.

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:22 pm

tunnelcat wrote:
Only the stupid ones with no brains, no self worth, no money and big tits. Any smart woman, no matter how she looks, would steer clear of a man who believes sexual assualt is just a fun locker room game. Believe me, what Trump was bragging in that video about constitutes sexual assault.

No doubt that Trump is a piece of trash.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:40 am

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:54 am

Takes one to know one Mr. Trump.

By the way, will conservatives please answer me this. Since your party worked so hard to get a lying sexual predator impeached in 1998, (by the way, I was in agreement with the verdict) why IN THE HELL would you vote to put one BACK INTO office? Because it's OK if your guy is one?

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:22 pm

tunnelcat wrote:Takes one to know one Mr. Trump.

By the way, will conservatives please answer me this. Since your party worked so hard to get a lying sexual predator impeached in 1998, (by the way, I was in agreement with the verdict) why IN THE HELL would you vote to put one BACK INTO office? Because it's OK if your guy is one?

Where is he a predator?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:06 pm

if you don't think forcing yourself upon women isn't predatory, when they clearly never requested the attention, you are deplorable.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:51 pm

So did you vote for Rapist Bill back when he was running for Pres. Pot don't be calling the kettle black.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:52 pm

actually, Woody, I voted for Pappy Bush.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:54 pm

I'll bet you did.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:58 pm

woodchip wrote:I'll bet you did.

didn't see the intelligence of Clinton at that point(won me to that hearing him speak, live, in 1995). Plus, you still don't seem to grasp this much. Bill never has been proven(or even CLOSE TO IT) as forcing himself on anyone. Trump was suggesting, on two points we know of so far, assaulting women. Having consensual sex is not assault, but it WAS, to my mind, betrayal of the responsibility of office. Had he been proven to do so when in office in Arkansas, I would have viewed that as a disqualifier.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:11 pm

I guess Tiffany doesn't even want a kiss from creepy daddy.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:22 pm

callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:I'll bet you did.
didn't see the intelligence of Clinton at that point(won me to that hearing him speak, live, in 1995). Plus, you still don't seem to grasp this much. Bill never has been proven(or even CLOSE TO IT) as forcing himself on anyone. Trump was suggesting, on two points we know of so far, assaulting women. Having consensual sex is not assault, but it WAS, to my mind, betrayal of the responsibility of office. Had he been proven to do so when in office in Arkansas, I would have viewed that as a disqualifier.

Yeah, helps when you intimidate your accusers with the help of your wife. So Bill Cosby in your eyes was never guilty of anything either.

And I suppose your never bother to look up his rape in college...the one that got him booted from Oxford.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:30 pm

um, the story about being kicked out of Oxford has long been shown to be a lie. Keep at it, your Orange hero would be proud. The rest of us are merely laughing as you unravel.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:52 pm

Woody, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:58 pm

Snopes, as it is so often, is our friend here:
http://www.snopes.com/bill-clinton-expe ... om-oxford/

worth a read, as it is a great example of how the right-wing loonisphere piles up a bunch of small lies and then extrapolates to the big lie.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:59 pm

woodchip wrote:So did you vote for Rapist Bill back when he was running for Pres. Pot don't be calling the kettle black.

No one knew he had "pervert or accused rape issues" back when he ran for president in 1992. The first indication of the Juanita Broaddrick incident came out in 1999 on NBC's Dateline, well into Bill's second term. Very few Americans who voted for him knew he was an accused rapist back then, unless I'm missing something. Now with Trump, we know about his perversion while he's in the process of being elected to office. That's the difference. No sane woman, or man for that matter, in their moral right mind, should vote for someone who's shown he's a sexual predator who's also a braggart about it, especially as our leader and president. I wouldn't vote for Bill Clinton if you paid me knowing what I know now. That's kind of why I don't like the idea of voting for Hillary. She's dragging him along.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:06 pm

callmeslick wrote:Snopes, as it is so often, is our friend here:
http://www.snopes.com/bill-clinton-expe ... om-oxford/

worth a read, as it is a great example of how the right-wing loonisphere piles up a bunch of small lies and then extrapolates to the big lie.

And snopes said it was not-proven...not dis-proven. But lets here from the woman herself:

Eileen Wellstone is an English woman who alleged Clinton sexually assaulted her in 1969 after she had met him at a pub near Oxford University, England. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholarship student at Oxford at that time. Ms Wellstone re-confirmed the incident in 1999, but asked to be left alone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clin ... llegations

Or you can read here about a whole list of women Billy "Balls" either had a affair or forced himself upon. Eileen Wellstone is listed here as well.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... 742-7463r/

So go ahead and keep thinking Billy is a paragon of virtue.