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What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:18 pm
by woodchip
FBI reopens Hillary investigation. Without speculating, this is a stunning turn of events. Question is why.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:30 pm
by callmeslick
the question is INDEED why. So far, they have stated that none of the emails mentioned today eminate from Ms Clinton, and further are unsure whether they are even significant in the other investigation. They were found on Anthony Weiner's phone and he has no real link to Clinton save that of ex husband to a long-time aide.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:31 pm
by Top Gun
"Without speculating, I shall immediately speculate!"
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:38 pm
by callmeslick
and the whole thing about October Surprises falls apart by the hour:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/2 ... l=facebook
now we know the following:
1. no emails from Clinton
2. no emails to Clinton
3. no emails from the 'private server'
starting to look like Comey was making nice with the Congressmen who'd attacked him, and covering his butt over the comment that 'nothing' further existed.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:45 pm
by woodchip
Except the same phone was used by both Anthony and Huma and was used to send messages to Hillary's server. How ever you may want to mitigate damage slick, for Comey to reopen this case, Comey has to have a bombshell bit of info.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:49 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:and the whole thing about October Surprises falls apart by the hour:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/2 ... l=facebook
now we know the following:
1. no emails from Clinton
2. no emails to Clinton
3. no emails from the 'private server'
starting to look like Comey was making nice with the Congressmen who'd attacked him, and covering his butt over the comment that 'nothing' further existed.
LOL Dailykos. You might want to read this from someone who is a real investigative reporter. You do know who Bernstein is don't you?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... shell.html
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:55 pm
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:Except the same phone was used by both Anthony and Huma and was used to send messages to Hillary's server. How ever you may want to mitigate damage slick, for Comey to reopen this case, Comey has to have a bombshell bit of info.
or, he wants to toss a bone to his longtime Congressional backers. You don't get nominated to be FBI director by a Republican President randomly.
Oh, and anyone reading Bernstein's piece and taking away anything other than sheer speculation(Bernstein says as much) is WAY optimistic.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:03 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:
or, he wants to toss a bone to his longtime Congressional backers. You don't get nominated to be FBI director by a Republican President randomly.
Oh, and anyone reading Bernstein's piece and taking away anything other than sheer speculation(Bernstein says as much) is WAY optimistic.
I really don't think that at this stage of the election, Comey is tossing anyone a bone. There's more going on here than what is apparent at this stage. This could be the death knell of Hillary's election bid.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:11 pm
by callmeslick
no way ANYTHING comes out in 11 days, so good luck with that. Nearly 10% of the electorate has voted, and it seems that positions are fairly rigid.
Comey might be trying to save his job, but I don't know what the motivation is, frankly. As Bernstein speculates, there seems to be SOMETHING related to the overall investigation,but it seems clear from the little detail thus far that it doesn't directly deal with Clinton, her server, or even the Foundation. Who knows. Really dubious timing, and sort of hilarious seeing the same Trump team members who absolutely lambasted the FBI and the Director as being 'corrupt', 'crooked', 'bought and paid for' and 'incompetent' suddenly re-thinking.......
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:17 pm
by woodchip
Sorry you are so far out of the loop:
FBI director James Comey has told Congress the bureau is investigating newly found Hillary Clinton emails.
The latest emails came to light during a separate inquiry into top Clinton aide Huma Abedin's estranged husband, former congressman Anthony Weiner.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:15 pm
by vision
Doesn't change anything. She will be elected president and the same people who don't like her today will not like her after the election. She won't go to jail and this "surprise" is already looking to be a lot of hot air, though it is still too early to make any judgement about the matter.
Feel free to get your blood pressure up. It you that will have the early heart attack, not me.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:28 pm
by woodchip
Oh, I'm quite calm and liking the possible out come better and better.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:40 pm
by callmeslick
care to post the actual letter from Comey, or shall I(I have the link someplace).? At NO PLACE does he say they are 're-opening' the investigation. He merely states, by way of clarification, that since he had reported to Congress that all emails had been reviewed, that the FBI found more in an unrelated investigation(Weiner's sexting thing) that they were going to review for classified material and THAT'S IT. Period. Nothing terribly frightening there. Now, mind you, it forces Clinton to deal with media and Trumptard discussions of emails yet again, but I suspect that opinions are quite hardened around the importance of that one to get us where we currently are. I just heard a (GOP) expert claim that by Monday all material should be reviewed. We can see if anything reveals itself, but I can't even imagine where Weiner's devices would have ever seen any significant material past child porn or some such.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:43 pm
by callmeslick
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:50 pm
by woodchip
Don't need your left wing buddies to parse. Language is pretty clear they are reopening the investigate because of new emails. You want to add some gobblygook then be my guest.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:31 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:Don't need your left wing buddies to parse.
LOL! Good one chipper, perfect response for an ostrich to make. Maybe read the article next time, haha?
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:18 am
by Ferno
woodchip wrote:Don't need your left wing buddies to parse.
Left wing buddies, huh? Just from that one sentence, I can tell you've completely ignored the link.
Hey, they have a nice about section. Let's see who these 'left wing buddies' are...
Founding Editors
Robert Chesney
Charles I. Francis Professor in Law
University of Texas School of Law
Jack Goldsmith
Henry L. Shattuck Professor
Harvard Law School
Senior Fellow
The Hoover Institution
Benjamin Wittes
Senior Fellow in Governance Studies
The Brookings Institution
Managing Editor
Susan Hennessey
Fellow in National Security Law
The Brookings Institution
Deputy Managing Editor
Jane Chong
National Security and Law Associate
The Hoover Institution
Book Review Editors
Kenneth Anderson
Professor of Law
Washington College of Law
American University
Jack Goldsmith
Henry L. Shattuck Professor
Harvard Law School
Senior Fellow
The Hoover Institution
Geoffrey S. Corn
Professor Law and Presidential Research Professor
South Texas College of Law
(Military Affairs)
Mary L. Dudziak
Asa Griggs Chandler Professor Law
Emory University
(Foreign Relations History)
Samuel Moyn
Professor Law and History
Harvard Law School
(Human Rights)
Steve Slick
Director of the Intelligence Studies Project
The University of Texas at Austin
(Intelligence)
Law, Intelligence, Military affairs. Yeah, real 'left wing' alright.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:28 am
by callmeslick
more from 'liberals'....this time Judicial Watch, Judge Napolitano's little outfit:
“This is as bad for Comey as it is for Hillary,” said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a conservative advocacy group that has successfully sued for access to thousands of Mrs. Clinton’s private emails
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:31 am
by woodchip
vision wrote:woodchip wrote:Don't need your left wing buddies to parse.
LOL! Good one chipper, perfect response for an ostrich to make. Maybe read the article next time, haha?
Actually I did read it...did you? And what part of this do you not understand?:
The FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I (Comey) have agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails
Now how slick can say they are not reopening the investigation is beyond me but apparently slick has convinced his weak minded friends here that is the truth.
And the following is from a letter by Comey to the FBI employee's:
Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... f2d523d56b
Now perhaps you want to parse "Review" as not meaning reopening or that "Investigative Steps" means learning how to walk but if you need someone else to tell you what it means then by all means do so...just doesn't show a lot of intelligence.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:05 am
by callmeslick
turns out to be THREE emails? This is looking really embarrassing for Comey, and he has some 'splaining to do. Again. Given the longstanding DOJ policy about refraining from anything potentially impacting on political campaigns in the final 60 days(across both Rep and Dem administrations), Comey will not be FBI director for very long.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:13 am
by woodchip
How typical slick, always blaming the messenger. There is still the question as to why...and I've heard a number of theories.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:41 am
by callmeslick
as have I, but most are around Comey trying to save his hide with his own party.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:19 pm
by woodchip
Most of the ones I see have Obama throwing Hillary under the bus in exchange for Obama not being investigateded for sending emails under a alias to Hillary's server.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:13 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:Now how slick can say they are not reopening the investigation is beyond me...
Because the case was never closed, so it can't be reopened. This whole letter by Comey is to cover his ass. He testified that his work was "complete" but now it turns out there is more to be done. It's purely a technicality, but an important one from a legal standpoint. There is virtually no chance that any of the three emails will cause him to change his recommendation, but from a legal standpoint it must be stated this way. Essentially, nothing has changed.
So chipper, what kind of bombshell do you expect in these three emails?
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:00 pm
by woodchip
vision wrote:
So chipper, what kind of bombshell do you expect in these three emails?
I'll be kind to you vision because I think you are a intelligent person. However how you can be so far out of the loop is beyond me:
The electronic device shared by Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin and husband Anthony Weiner on which the FBI found more Clinton emails was a laptop and it contained tens-of-thousands of emails, a senior law enforcement official told Fox News on Saturday.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10 ... ource.html
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:25 pm
by callmeslick
3 of those emails went to Clinton's inbox. OOOOOOH, scary.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:26 pm
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:Most of the ones I see have Obama throwing Hillary under the bus in exchange for Obama not being investigateded for sending emails under a alias to Hillary's server.
I'm quite sure 'most of the ones' YOU SEE would say crazy ★■◆● like that.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:02 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:3 of those emails went to Clinton's inbox. OOOOOOH, scary.
Wow are you being deliberately obtuse or has your cranium shrunk. What part of 10k hillary emails wound up on Tony "the Wang" Weiners lap top (Why do I get a bad image of a "lap" top), someone who had no business having them. Or was hillary looking to get "Weiner" pic? If any of those had classified date then HRC will be in deep dodo. But hey, keep clinging to the number 3 but I bet the Clinton campaign isn't.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:12 pm
by callmeslick
no one has produced one shred of evidence of what you are claiming. No one. There are Tens of Thousands of emails on the laptop. But NO ONE is even coming close to suggesting(past maybe your goofy 'news' sources) that any more than THREE of those in ANY way relate to Clinton.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:15 pm
by callmeslick
oh, and note, too, Woody. It is very likely that even those three are already captured on HRC's end by the prior investigation. Thus, this whole bizarre thing is mostly about nothing. The timing of the letter becomes suspect, but past that, this will have no effect upon Ms Clinton's upcoming election victory.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:57 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:no one has produced one shred of evidence of what you are claiming. No one. There are Tens of Thousands of emails on the laptop. But NO ONE is even coming close to suggesting(past maybe your goofy 'news' sources) that any more than THREE of those in ANY way relate to Clinton.
For being a bright guy you can be amazingly dense at times. Do you think the FBI is going to tell us this early on what the emails contain or will parcel them out as they review them? And I don't think Fox news is being goofy about it.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:58 pm
by vision
This is chippy's political Viagra since he can't get it up for Trump anymore without help from Hillary. #MAGA alone won't do the trick.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:20 pm
by woodchip
So you are proven wrong and revert to troll status. Sorry I thought you were a bright sort.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:23 pm
by Nightshade
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:25 pm
by callmeslick
yeah, let's choose the guy who faces a Fraud Trial in November and a Child Rape trial in December. Wise move!!!
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:42 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:So you are proven wrong and revert to troll status.
But I haven't been, and you don't know what trolling is.
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:07 pm
by Nightshade
callmeslick wrote:yeah, let's choose the guy who faces a Fraud Trial in November and a Child Rape trial in December. Wise move!!!
Great choices right?
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:17 am
by callmeslick
Biden by acclamation?
Re: What ya gonna do when they come for you
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:58 am
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:yeah, let's choose the guy who faces a Fraud Trial in November and a Child Rape trial in December. Wise move!!!
Why not...look at how well Billy Bob is loved and adored for the same type crimes.