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But you are wrong if you think the Russian people think you should control the Ukraine:

Russians, however, believe that their country is better off not exerting control over Ukraine, as a new poll by independent Russian survey company Levada Center showed that 63 percent of Russians prefer to see Ukraine as independent in “mutually beneficial” relations with Russia. This is a four percent increase since last year.

http://www.newsweek.com/majority-russia ... nce-527459

It would seem the Russian people are more in line with the American people where neither group wants to control another nation.

inb4: You is silly Amerkan. Cannot even understand propaganda that is westernized media. Putin news = best news.

The work of Macedonian hackers, no doubt.

I think the whole thing is not in Ukraine, Japan, Vietnam, Syria, Libya and other countries where the United States engaged in outright war crimes, are no better than the Nazis. The United States had a good opportunity to develop their economies after the WWII in 1945. And we have already seen more than 70 years, as the United States took advantage of this opportunity.

Correction: Donald Trump is going to fix the economy.
At least as much as he can do in 4-8 years.

And what about Ronald Regan? Forget about him?

Ronald Reagan already will not be able to do anything for a little bit to repay the external debt of the United States, unlike Donald Trump. Do you have pride? You have the foreign debt almost twenty trillion.

Blame Obama. He virtually quadrupled it. Reagan had comparatively no debt.
And besides, how do we know that the sole reason you're bragging about Russia is because you can't say anything bad about it? There is such a Russian law. And there is no reason for them to not monitor internet stuff (aside from the millions of people - oh wait, the NSA can do such a thing to America.

I am not saying that America is the perfect country. But it is the best that there is.
And besides, when did this get away from Russia and Ukraine?

LightWolf wrote: you're bragging about Russia is because you can't say anything bad about it?

LightWolf, I can say that from the time of Peter the Great, practically nothing has changed. Stealing money of the state budget from the officials still has a colossal scale.

LightWolf wrote:Blame Obama. He virtually quadrupled it. Reagan had comparatively no debt.

where do you read your history? Reagan ballooned the freaking deficit, Bush did likewise. Obama inherited a massive need for deficit spending to save the ★■◆●ing economy. And then lowered the deficit annually for 7 years/

sigma wrote:Ronald Reagan already will not be able to do anything for a little bit to repay the external debt of the United States, unlike Donald Trump. Do you have pride? You have the foreign debt almost twenty trillion.

um, to be clear, we have a NATIONAL debt of that level. Our foreign debt is much lower, around 8 trillion. Most of the money we owe ourselves, as domestic purchase of bonds is around double that of foreign purchase.

It doesn't make it okay

nice avoidance of the fact you were making a bogus claim. And, yes, that level of debt at dirt-cheap interest rates, is pretty much OK.

You are right, the information in Wikipedia is sometimes bogus in one way or another. This is especially true of the English version of Wikipedia, which is often greatly abridged, often it has a clear political overtones, and sometimes just distorts the historical facts.

completely agree. Was saying as much to someone the other day who was trying to get me to contribute money to Wikipedia, citing it as a valuable source. My reply was that anything so open to editing without instant response is a sewer for bad informatiion. My personal experience is that for general purpose information, Wiki is fine. For anything of any controversial, or even remotely controversial nature, I avoid giving much creedence to 'facts' cited in Wikipedia. Just my two cents, and others might have different experiences.

But.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

I wonder what happens to the payments on that debt if Trump keeps with his position that he wants the Feds to raise interest rates in order to get rid of what he calls our "false economy"?

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/06/trump-wa ... ntary.html

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/ ... Rates-Rise

tunnelcat wrote:I wonder what happens to the payments on that debt if Trump keeps with his position that he wants the Feds to raise interest rates in order to get rid of what he calls our "false economy"?

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/06/trump-wa ... ntary.html


http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/ ... Rates-Rise

the nation is fucked. It's that simple.