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so far 3 major diplomatic blunders and he is 6 weeks from inaugural, presuming the recount doesn't get out of hand

Finally we have found a politician who makes Dubya sound like ★■◆●ing Tolstoy.

Since you two have years of negotiating deals, tell me how Trump blundered.

Oh, he just violated 37 years of US/China diplomatic policy. The last president who did that was Jimmy Carter. Plus, it looks like he's doing all this for a chance to get a Trump Hotel built in Taiwan. Nice. WWIII with China and all for yet for another Trump hotel somewhere in the world.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election ... t3bnc.html

woodchip wrote:Since you two have years of negotiating deals, tell me how Trump blundered.

who was 'negotiating a deal'? What deal do you cut with nations that have no diplomatic ties with the US?

You ever think maybe he was shooting the first salvo in a negotiating strategy with China? Didn't think so. After 8 years of inept Obama I guess you got used to his floundering diplomatic style.

China will be eating us for lunch, what with dumping any TPP deal, pulling this isolationist crap or even threatening it, and blundering around the planet like a buffoon on Trump's part. Woe be to us.

Chinese have been eating us for lunch for years. That will stop when Trump takes office.

no, they haven't. You have no clue what you're babbling about. They have an economy fundamentally dependant on the US. Now, not for long.

woodchip wrote:Since you two have years of negotiating deals, tell me how Trump blundered.

Oh yeah, Trump makes lots of deals, but he shows no integrity while making them. And this is a comment from a Wall Street CEO on a morning CNBC show. He's following his "Art of the Deal" to the letter. How long will that benefit the U.S.?

I suppose you're right Grendel. But it's downright scary to see what's going on BEFORE Trump is actually inaugurated. The imagination runs wild.

Was directed mainly at the OP.

who directs this back:

If you can't tell the difference between those scenarios then you're not qualified to comment on them.

(Also yet again we see how political cartoonists are comprised of those who failed both journalism AND art school!)

Top Gun wrote:If you can't tell the difference between those scenarios then you're not qualified to comment on them.

(Also yet again we see how political cartoonists are comprised of those who failed both journalism AND art school!)

You mean surrendering to tyrants and giving them money and trade in Obama's case while Trump risked ruffling the feathers of a tyrannical fascist oligarchy to speak to the head of a thriving democracy for a few minutes?

It's time our enemies feared us and our friends can count on us once again.

...it really is like talking to a 6-year-old, isn't it?

it is, TG, especially since we were under order, by international law, to pay the money to Iran.

Nightshade wrote:

Top Gun wrote:If you can't tell the difference between those scenarios then you're not qualified to comment on them.

(Also yet again we see how political cartoonists are comprised of those who failed both journalism AND art school!)

You mean surrendering to tyrants and giving them money and trade in Obama's case while Trump risked ruffling the feathers of a tyrannical fascist oligarchy to speak to the head of a thriving democracy for a few minutes?

It's time our enemies feared us and our friends can count on us once again.

May I ask NS, do you consider Putin a "friend" of the U.S.? Trump seems pretty chummy lately with one of our oldest enemies. Maybe a little TOO chummy, like along the lines; "IF scratch your back, will you scratch mine".

I can't remember one time in history where Russia was our enemy.

Maybe I should have said "frenemy" then, because both our countries seems at odds over Ukraine and Syria, enough so that Putin considers nuking the U.S. as a viable option.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/rus ... d=42773541

Spidey wrote:I can't remember one time in history where Russia was our enemy.

certainly a serious rival, real close to enemy from the later 1950s to the early 1960s.

Top Gun wrote:...it really is like talking to a 6-year-old, isn't it?

Here Mr genius, Charles Krautnhammer writes a excellent piece on why we are losing to authoritarian govts.:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... fadda3f12b

you are losing, because you envy them(as does old Crazy Charlie) their ability to manipulate their populace. No other way. Find me one authoritarian regime who can touch us in innovation, commerce, strength of currency, or most any measure of quality of life. No, we are losing, if at all, to Democrat Socialist nations like Sweden, Norway and Denmark who are preparing for the 21st century, and India, who is determined to lead the free world into it.