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Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:01 am
by callmeslick
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/new ... /96660756/

so, to quickly summarize:

The Great Deal-Maker cannot successfully hire party entertainment for the inaugural

The Cheeto Hitler is being defended by a guy whose government is under sanction by the US

6 times the reservations for parking have been made for the protests than for the actual inaugural.

Trump arrives with BY FAR the lowest public support of any incoming President, ever.



this is going to go great!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:34 am
by woodchip
More and worse obsession with Trump than TB with Muslims. Why don't you check my newest post and get paid for agitating. :roll:

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:48 pm
by Tunnelcat
Well, one thing's for sure, Trump is officially the least-popular incoming president in the last 40 years. Jimmy Carter had better ratings. :P

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/t ... ion-233678

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:18 pm
by Top Gun
woodchip wrote:More and worse obsession with Trump than TB with Muslims. Why don't you check my newest post and get paid for agitating. :roll:
If you and your kind hadn't been such massive fuckups on election day, we wouldn't need to have this conversation.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:03 am
by woodchip
Top Gun wrote:
woodchip wrote:More and worse obsession with Trump than TB with Muslims. Why don't you check my newest post and get paid for agitating. :roll:
If you and your kind hadn't been such massive fuckups on election day, we wouldn't need to have this conversation.
As usual, your reply replete with gutter based language, falls short of what actually happened. I predicted this years ago and since you have your blinder limited protection on, let me explain it once again. As I said, Obama was such a narrow idealog and racist that pushed our country in a direction it did not want to go, he in fact and all those fawning voters with the help of a equally fawning press, set the stage for Donald Trump.

I could see, where most all of you could not, that Trump was the antithesis of Obama. Trump being diametrically opposed to Obama and not afraid to fight back when the press and the Dems tried to destroy him in their usual and predictable manner, struck a cord with a large portion of the electorate. I don't think you'll find in any of my posts where I was a rah rah boy for Trump. I simply pointed out Trump was the polar opposite to Obama and thus was a focal point for all those disaffected voters. In short he was logical choice in the primaries and stood a good chance to win the general election.

Now TB, if you can stand to have a actual discussion instead of your usual knee jerk reply to my post, let look at what at the veracity of your post. My counter is this. If the voters who voted in Obama couldn't see of incredibly inept Obama is, how blindly the press promoted a paper bag simple because Obama is black, how the DNC could back such a man and then compound their mistakes by backing Hillary...is what really set up the condition for Trump to win.

There is nothing wrong with the Trump voters, no matter how colorfully you paint them. What was wrong were the forces on the Dems side who picked people to run the country that the voters either saw as inept after 8 years and compounded by a candidate (Hillary) that even a significant portion of the Dem voters didn't want. All this set the stage for Trump to win. Of course TG, you'll blow this off in your usual manner because you and people who voted for Hillary, will keep wearing their blinders. Until you take them off, the Dems will become ever more dis-organised and lose more power. Your only hope is; Trump and the republicans royally screw up. The more your side fights the election results, the more the voters will see your side as something to avoid. The smart thing would to be less vociferous against Trump and look more like you are helping the president to improve America. I'm not holding my breath.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:47 pm
by callmeslick
voters will be voters. There is something horribly wrong with TRUMP. That you chose him is your issue
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truth, there.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:38 pm
by Spidey
Lewis throws the first insult...but Trump is the bad guy.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:38 pm
by Nightshade
Wow... Bill Moyers... that fascist fossil is still alive? :lol:

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:02 pm
by Tunnelcat
Spidey wrote:Lewis throws the first insult...but Trump is the bad guy.
No. Lewis just did to Trump what that birther Trump did to Obama, for 6 years, calling the president an illegitimate president. You'll also notice that Lewis didn't say the election was illegitimate, which conservatives have been conflating on all the news shows as an equal statement. Besides, Trump needs to grow up, be a better man by growing a spine and staying above it all and quit reacting to insults with pathetic tweets made at 3:00AM like a 6 year old.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:07 pm
by Top Gun
woodchip wrote: As usual, your reply replete with gutter based language, falls short of what actually happened. I predicted this years ago and since you have your blinder limited protection on, let me explain it once again. As I said, Obama was such a narrow idealog and racist that pushed our country in a direction it did not want to go, he in fact and all those fawning voters with the help of a equally fawning press, set the stage for Donald Trump.
This is a supreme level of bull★■◆● and you know it. There is no rational definition of the term whereby Obama can be construed as remotely "racist." It takes especially big stones for a white guy to label our first black president as such when his own anointed candidate is the darling of alt-right nutjobs and people with pointy white hoods buried in their closets. And that "ideologue," as you label him, would qualify as moderate at best and flat-out conservative at worst in any other political spectrum than our own ridiculously right-skewing one.
I could see, where most all of you could not, that Trump was the antithesis of Obama. Trump being diametrically opposed to Obama and not afraid to fight back when the press and the Dems tried to destroy him in their usual and predictable manner, struck a cord with a large portion of the electorate. I don't think you'll find in any of my posts where I was a rah rah boy for Trump. I simply pointed out Trump was the polar opposite to Obama and thus was a focal point for all those disaffected voters. In short he was logical choice in the primaries and stood a good chance to win the general election.
You've been doing an absolute cheerleading routine for Trump for the past two years, so spare me. And anyone who puts the terms "logical" and "Trump" in the same sentence has no business using that term.
Now TB, if you can stand to have a actual discussion instead of your usual knee jerk reply to my post, let look at what at the veracity of your post. My counter is this. If the voters who voted in Obama couldn't see of incredibly inept Obama is, how blindly the press promoted a paper bag simple because Obama is black, how the DNC could back such a man and then compound their mistakes by backing Hillary...is what really set up the condition for Trump to win.
Yeah man, ensuring that the nation's economy didn't utterly disintegrate into a black hole and extending health insurance to millions of Americans totally qualify as "inept." Do tell, what competence has Trump shown in his life? Presiding over a string of failed business ventures, utterly stiffing any number of contractors, and somehow managing less of a return on his inheritance than if he had stuck it in a mutual fund and left it alone for a few decades? Phew, what a shining beacon of success!
There is nothing wrong with the Trump voters, no matter how colorfully you paint them. What was wrong were the forces on the Dems side who picked people to run the country that the voters either saw as inept after 8 years and compounded by a candidate (Hillary) that even a significant portion of the Dem voters didn't want. All this set the stage for Trump to win. Of course TG, you'll blow this off in your usual manner because you and people who voted for Hillary, will keep wearing their blinders. Until you take them off, the Dems will become ever more dis-organised and lose more power. Your only hope is; Trump and the republicans royally screw up. The more your side fights the election results, the more the voters will see your side as something to avoid. The smart thing would to be less vociferous against Trump and look more like you are helping the president to improve America. I'm not holding my breath.
I like how you're ignoring that, even considering the incompetence of Hillary's end-game campaign, she still won the popular vote by over two million voters. So do tell, in what universe are Democrats the ones in trouble? The only demographic the Republican party still holds sway over are older, low-educated white voters. African-Americans, HIspanics, and millennials all vote strongly, if not overwhelmingly, Democratic. The GOP has no conceivable medium- to long-term future unless it breaks its myopic focus on an ever-dwindling group. As someone on another forum I frequent put it, Cthulhu always swings to the left. 2018 is going to be one hell of a midterm backlash.

But no, the actual reason Trump one is because low-information voters (which seem to be America's chief export at this point) were deluded by a bloviating idiot who speaks with a fifth-grade vocabulary and spews forth promises that are not only practically impossible to achieve, but act directly against said voters' own self-interest. Like, the Republican Party is still trying to push ★■◆●ing Reaganomics in the year 2017, and the people most harmed by it are lapping it up hook, line, and sinker. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so utterly pathetic. The best part is some of the reactions that have been coming out when Trump supporters have realized, "Wait...so if they repeal Obamacare, I lose my insurance!" Nice job breaking it, hero.

And "helping the president to improve America" just like congressional Republicans have done over the past 8 years? Oh wait...

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:28 pm
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote:As usual, your reply replete with gutter based language, falls short of what actually happened. I predicted this years ago and since you have your blinder limited protection on, let me explain it once again. As I said, Obama was such a narrow idealog and racist that pushed our country in a direction it did not want to go, he in fact and all those fawning voters with the help of a equally fawning press, set the stage for Donald Trump.
That's getting old woody. Calling the messenger something he's actually been a victim of is an old redirection and manipulation tactic. It's called the "blame game".

http://counsellingresource.com/features ... lame-game/

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:48 pm
by callmeslick
the fact that Obama leaves office in better regard than any President since Eisenhower is a tell how THINKING people feel. TG needs no backup, but I have to second the idea that any fool that calls Obama racist because his mere election brought to the surface the last gasp of white supremacy is an idiot.
Moreover, anyone who even spends ten seconds evaluating US political thought would realize that Obama is a consensus-seeking Centrist, with Progressive sympathies. That does not equate to the bizarre reality of Woody-World. We're privvy to the gameplan now, try to devalue facts, denigrate the legitimate working press and keep on lying. That will catch up with the Trump team, and the GOP if they start going along like sheep. I like the backbone I'm seeing from some quarters there, so they likely can read the future well enough. As for demographics, I think, in some quarters, there is some hope, with what justification I'm not sure, that Trump will accomplish something or things that generate an upswell from a larger demographic than merely uneducated white people, his current core base. That's a real gamble that I'd not be willing to make, were I dependant upon future voting patterns.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:12 pm
by Spidey
No president can get elected in this country without the “uneducated” voter, hell they sure do turn out in great numbers in the major cities.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:23 pm
by callmeslick
nothing was specified about the broad class of uneducated voters. I specified WHITE voters.

Re: Trump surrogates keep up the defense

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:33 pm
by Spidey
No ★■◆● Sherlock, that was my point.