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Bill O'Reilly wrote:So anyway I'd be rubbing your big boobs and getting your nipples hard, kinda' kissing your neck from behind... and then I would take the other hand with the falafel [sic] thing and I'd put it on your pussy but you'd have to do it really light, just kind of a tease business....

Spidey wrote:I’m not in any way defending this guy…but doesn’t it ever occur to this woman to just HANG UP!

Spidey wrote:I'm going to pull a fast one here and hope no one notices… I'm going to blame the victim.

Ferno wrote:I'm twisting Spidey's words like I always do.

Spidey wrote:There are always consequences of one’s actions.

Spidey wrote:Well, if resisting and fighting back against bullies results in being fired, then so be it. I don’t see how that is blame shifting.

You can put principles ahead of a job, or put a job ahead of principle…either way you have to deal with the consequences.

Would you put up with bull★■◆●…just to keep a job?

I never did, in fact I have quit plenty of jobs because the employer was an Ahole.

callmeslick wrote:network broadcasting gigs are hardly a dime a dozen, so just upping and quitting may sound nice, but to the women involved, it would have meant risking a six figure job with no fallback at CLOSE to the money involved. The stakes for on-air feature personalities would have been far higher than that.

Spidey wrote:I don’t see how that is blame shifting.

but doesn’t it ever occur to this woman to just HANG UP!

because the job market is not-so-upwardly-mobile for them

Ferno wrote:Oh that's just bull★■◆●, TC. Any woman can be upwardly mobile. You only hear the contrary from women who don't take all the opportunity given to them. Sabbaticals, Mental Health days, Me-days... Do these sound familiar?

Tunnelcat wrote:Is it now? Personally, I HAVE experienced the dreaded wage gap and the non-promotions in most of my working life. Women are not seen as strong and decisive by a lot of men, but instead are looked upon as flitty, unstable, unreliable and emotional, not worthy or capable of leadership positions. It's ingrained into the male psyche. Add having kids into the mix and many women are permanently stuck in a lower wage rut. But in my case, especially since there's no cure for severe later-in-mid-life hormone-caused health issues, like migraines, insomnia, IBS and fibromyalgia, which a lot of perimenopausal and post menopausal women experience, it killed my career, or any chance of ever getting a higher paying position, forever.

woodchip wrote:My viewpoint is women should be treated like horses...ridden hard and put away wet. Oh and if you think Trump or O'Reilly are bad...maybe you should read up on Clinton and Kennedy.

Vander wrote:Lighten up, Francis.

Ferno wrote:So here's the thing - If women were indeed being paid less for the same amount of hours, how come we don't see practically every industry employing only women?

Why would an employer hire men and women when they could go 'Well, I can save a lot of money by hiring only women, so I'll do that!' and tell all men to go somewhere else?

woodchip wrote:My viewpoint is women should be treated like horses...ridden hard and put away wet. Oh and if you think Trump or O'Reilly are bad...maybe you should read up on Clinton and Kennedy.

Tunnelcat wrote:Pride, because maybe because most men think that they can do a LOT of things better than a woman and that this thinking is a long ingrained institution in most patriarchal cultures, of which ours is one?

Tunnelcat wrote:

woodchip wrote:My viewpoint is women should be treated like horses...ridden hard and put away wet. Oh and if you think Trump or O'Reilly are bad...maybe you should read up on Clinton and Kennedy.

★■◆● woody, I'm glad I'm not married to you. If I had the misfortune of being one of your "horses", once you got off after your little hard ride, this horse have kicked you in the nuts, TWICE, horseshoes and all, bit you in the ass for good measure, taken a dump AND a leak on your doorstep and trotted off into the sunset looking for better pastures.

woodchip wrote:TC, if you were ever married to me you would learn the true meaning of "Thoroughbred "

callmeslick wrote:

woodchip wrote:TC, if you were ever married to me you would learn the true meaning of "Thoroughbred "

I'm thinking that within an hour, you'd learn the meaning of 'gelding'.

woodchip wrote: TC, if you were ever married to me you would learn the true meaning of "Thoroughbred "

Ferno wrote:

Tunnelcat wrote:Pride, because maybe because most men think that they can do a LOT of things better than a woman and that this thinking is a long ingrained institution in most patriarchal cultures, of which ours is one?

Pride? So you believe it's because of ego, and not because men are less likely to take days off for whatever reason? Because ego is valued over productivity? Because ego is more important than making a deadline and keeping others happy? Because ego is more valuable than having a third (generally) simply not show up for work for the year?

Well ★■◆●, and here I thought running a business and making sure it survives year in and year out didn't have anything to do with feelings.

And here's an article that shows that the wage gap is basically made up. Claiming that women make less (and implying they should make more for the less hours they work) is blatant sexism. And besides, you'll outlive men by an average of five years (meaning you earn more money overall), so that more than makes up for the perceived difference.

Top Gun wrote:Yeah man let's completely ignore the validity of the message and instead focus on God knows what sort of bull★■◆●!