Nightshade wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:03 pm
Tunnelcat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:24 pm
Put it this way. You may not have supported the man, but do you support his current policies and agenda?
There's "Good Trump/Bad Trump."
A "Good Trump" thing for instance: Replace the late Antonin Scalia with Justice Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court
"Bad Trump" thing: Just about anything he verbally diarrheas all over twitter.
There are a number of great things that give me a little faith - like telling the UN to go ★■◆● themselves when it's long past due.
Other things that disturb me- like setting back trade deals that will cost us in the long run- and alienating our allies.
There's a huge list of both, but I'm not going to go over everything.
I can't make a judgement call on Gorsuch yet, so I won't have an opinion of him one way or another until he has some rulings under his belt. With his religious background, I don't have high hopes. And telling the United Nations to go eff themselves is not a good thing,
unless you like the
nationalist idea of us going it alone on the world stage like a bull in a china shop, acting like a self-centered, egotistical, second-rate country that no one in the world likes, looks up to, respects or trusts anymore. Since Trump has already degraded our world leadership roles and turned our allies against us, we're pretty much leaving a power vacuum in the world that China will definitely exploit. Bye bye U.S. superpower status. Gawd, no wonder Putin likes Trump.
But I'm guessing that you approve of Trump's little Muslim ban attempts? How bankrupting the country with his great tax plan that gives corporations everything in perpetuity then screws individuals down the road when those tax cuts eventually expire? How about the HUGE debt that's going to result from those tax cuts? How about the fact that those tax cuts are benefiting him
personally? How about the fact he's been mixing business and politics to his own benefit, not the people's? How about the fact that he half-assed destroyed Obamacare (the mandate is STILL in effect for last year and this year, so he didn't get rid of that like he promised either) and the healthcare system for the poor without replacing it with something better? How about playing twice or thrice as much golf as Obama after saying HE wouldn't be doing that if he was elected president? How about his constant attacks on the Justice Department and the FBI and his demands that he can do anything he wants with either department like some king? How about Trump's constant lying in the face of verifiable facts and his constant attacks on the free press? The Muslim ban and the last 2 examples are definitely straight out of the fascist playbook and so are some of the examples in the link below.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -done.html
But to be fair, I did find some tongue-in-cheek
good reasons Trump is good for the country and this list was compiled
before he was elected.
https://www.newsday.com/opinion/columni ... 1.11539249
Krom wrote:Yeah, but Obama did good stuff deliberately, only time Trump does anything good is purely coincidence or accident. Most self-serving douche bag in history.
The only thing I've seen that was
deliberate on Trump's part has been his systematic and spiteful dismantling of Obama's legacy, even if it was not in his or the country's best interest. Oh, and next to Trump, Ajit Pai is the other biggest douche bag in history.