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Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:56 pm
by Nightshade
"If it weren’t fictional, it would be Steve Bannon’s favorite African nation without a doubt," The Playlist's Rodrigo Perez wrote.
Notions of identity, isolationism, birthright and nativisim aren’t exactly the first elements that come to mind when you think of a crowdpleasing Marvel movie, but that’s exactly the kind of captivating moral, emotional and geopolitical texture that’s strewn throughout “Black Panther.” A familiar, but nevertheless entertaining stand-alone episode with few direct connections to the overarching Marvel Cinematic Universe, “Black Panther” sidesteps the origin story to focus on the aftermath of “Captain America: Civil War” and explores the heavy burden facing the new king of Wakanda.
https://theplaylist.net/black-panther-review-20180206/

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:14 pm
by callmeslick
have a problem with the movie? Lots of folks went to see it, and fascists tried to spread lies about violence facing white attendees. The handful I know who saw it liked it.

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:59 pm
by Vander
I was Claremont X-Men reader growing up, but I did dabble in other Marvel comics. That description of the cinematic Wakanda sounds like what I recall from the comics: a closed off, xenophobic country.

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:13 pm
by Burlyman
Isolationism, nationalism, and xenophobia when exercised properly are good characteristics of a healthy nation. Otherwise you end up with a demoralized nation without strong, unifying values and ideals ... such nations are ready to be destabilized by a foreign or hidden invader.

SPOILER ALERT

In the end of the movie Wakanda adopts a more internationalist foreign policy, but in a peaceful way that's beneficial to all nations, instead of waging wars and pretending to meddle in other countries' business while hiding the true reason for conflict like the united snakes

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:56 pm
by callmeslick
those traits will kill a society in modern times, or doom it to third-world status in the next decades.

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:34 pm
by Tunnelcat
Yeah, look what happened to Hitler's Germany. They had all those traits going for them, and yet they LOST the war BECAUSE they subscribed to all those traits. :wink:

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:15 pm
by vision
Don't get upset about fiction. There are worse places in literature.

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:19 pm
by Burlyman
So you're saying that it's better for a country to meddle in other countries' affairs and spend tax payer dollars on wars?

Re: Wacky Wakanda

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:29 pm
by callmeslick
Burlyman wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:19 pm So you're saying that it's better for a country to meddle in other countries' affairs and spend tax payer dollars on wars?
putting that together with isolationism, the other extreme, implies there is no middle ground. I'd disagree. Both extremes are to be avoided, but only one will prevent access to
the coming waves of advances in commerce.