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Being played?

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:19 pm
by Tunnelcat
Oh come on people, does anyone with half a brain and 2 eyeballs believe that Kim Jong Un is going to give up ALL his nukes just to make nice with Donald Trump and the world? I mean, the guy is a monster who has basically starved his own people to death just to fund his precious nuke and missile program and he protects it like a mother protects her baby. So why all of a sudden even hint that he might be willing to give it all up? That's what Trump and crew certainly expect out of this whole ridiculous media circus. I mean, it's Kim's ace in hole to project his own ass and it's worth more than gold. If I were him, I wouldn't give it up after all that past effort. Something else is going on, because Kim's got too much invested in his military toys to say goodby to them. In the end, I think the joke's on Trump and we're all getting played like a bunch of suckers. Plus, Trump's weird attraction and praise of dictators on one hand and showing disdain for our allies on the other is way too unhealthy for our nation's continuing prosperity and security.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... rn-donald/

Bill Clinton got burned for his troubles while trying to make peace with NK, so Trump's probably going to get the same results. Trump and Bolton however, may not be so complacent with failure. :wink:

https://www.history.com/news/north-kore ... -framework

Re: Being played?

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:02 pm
by Top Gun
He already got Trump to agree to ending military exercises with South Korea without any legitimate concessions himself. And the orange cockmonger gobbled it up like the dotard he is. Oh, and Trump didn't bother to consult his own military commanders before saying as much. Christ.

Re: Being played?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 pm
by Tunnelcat
Trump got ZERO concessions from NK and guess who gave Trump that splendid idea? Why Vladimir Putin. What a deal, for Russia, China and North Korea that is. I guess Trump's favorite butt buddy is smarter than the leaders of South Korea, his own advisors and the leaders of our own military. :roll:

https://qz.com/1304547/trump-stopping-w ... tins-idea/

Oh, and this picture is damning. If Hillary had been caught doing this, she'd have been thrown out of office and tried for treason. I don't care what anyone says, but our nation's president should NOT be saluting the military leader of a hostile foreign nation for ANY reason.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics ... index.html

Re: Being played?

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:21 pm
by Tunnelcat
Oh brother. Trump wants us lowly ungrateful Americans to praise him like the North Korean people do with Kim Jong Un. Talk about a clueless ego. If he only knew the true thoughts of the main NK population as they silently suffer through their lives while sitting in their hovels in stark poverty doing hard labor, because speaking out or trying to leave the country means torture and death. :wink:

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-no ... ple-2018-6

Re: Being played?

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:46 pm
by Top Gun
Traitorous sack of ★■◆●.

Re: Being played?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:35 pm
by Tunnelcat
Yep. Being played like a fiddle. So what happens when Trump finally gets it through his thick orange skull that he's being played? Will he get pissed off and do something rash, as is the usual reaction for an egomaniacal mentally unstable despot?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -officials

Re: Being played?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:46 pm
by Ferno
Given the fact that Trump basically broke the Iran deal, NKorea had zero reason to believe trump when he had his summit. So i'ts not surprising to see this happen.

Re: Being played?

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:02 pm
by Tunnelcat
This was the only gift NK and especially Putin wanted anyway, and they got it, the suspension of our large scale South Korean war games. Trump didn't even tell our own military or the leaders of SK that he was going to do this before he opened his flap trap after negotiations with Kim Jong Un. He always brags that he knows how to make a deal. So we got nothing and 2 of our greatest adversaries get the moon. Nice deal. :roll:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/us/p ... ended.html
Ferno wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:46 pm Given the fact that Trump basically broke the Iran deal, NKorea had zero reason to believe trump when he had his summit. So i'ts not surprising to see this happen.
Oh, we got our just rewards for that. Higher gas prices. :wink: