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Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:43 pm
by Ferno
https://www.businessinsider.com/ann-cou ... ill-2019-1

Always thought she was two sticks short of a bundle. And there it is, she's straight-up admitting it.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:45 pm
by Tunnelcat
A classic case of blind supporter remorse. I'd love to have her list all the promises that she believes Trump has kept. If you look deep enough, he hasn't done sqwat. On his biggest promise, to drain the swamp, he's nstead made it bigger, muddier, stinkier and even harder to drain. In fact, he even gold-plated the whole mess.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:46 am
by Krom
These fox news personalities are either incredibly stupid or outright malicious and have been doing real harm to the nation, the public should loudly and persistently proclaim our disapproval of them and the network that supports their behaviors. Anyone could see the midterm elections were a pretty huge hint that the American public was not buying Trumps immigration or border wall bull★■◆●; caving on this was the first sensible thing the moron in chief has done all year.

And draining the swamp? Haha yeah right, he drained it alright, so he could pump it full of the worst cocktail of radioactive waste, raw sewage and toxic sludge anyone could possibly find.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:44 pm
by Tunnelcat
Krom wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:46 am ...And draining the swamp? Haha yeah right, he drained it alright, so he could pump it full of the worst cocktail of radioactive waste, raw sewage and toxic sludge anyone could possibly find.
You mean like this idiot who supposedly works for us common wretches? :roll:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... edirect=on

Oh, and the toxic waste is really oozing now. You know, I'm starting to hear the ominous strains of the Jaws theme in the air. I guess shitheads do school together like sharks in a feeding frenzy. And how come some Republicans just can't quit Nixon fer cripes sake? :P

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/p ... eller.html

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Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:02 pm
by Tunnelcat
Oh, and here's Trump record of campaign promises, which is slightly less than a 50% hit rate. The border wall, which he said Mexico would pay for, is the biggest sucker promise not kept. Hallelujah to that. We need our tax dollars to fix our own roads and bridges first. And if anyone who believed that Trump's Berlin Wall ideal was something that he could actually accomplish because Mexico would pay for it are the biggest suckers on the planet, not that a wall would actually stop illegal immigration anyway. Now if he'd promised to place land mines on the border and man that wall with armed guards in towers ready to shoot on sight, THEN I would've believed a stupid wall on our southern border could actually work. :wink:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-tracker/

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:29 pm
by vision
Ferno wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:43 pmAlways thought she was two sticks short of a bundle. And there it is, she's straight-up admitting it.
I find myself agreeing with Ann Coulter on some issues. In the video she really hammers home how our government isn't working for anyone but rich people. That's totally true. Naturally, I disagree with her about the solutions.

I also can sympathise how smart people can look past the absurd ★■◆● our president says. In this case, Coulter really is giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and putting faith in him. When you break that down, it's the best anyone can do for another person to overcome prejudice. It's part of trust building. After the election there were a lot of disappointed and suspicious people who honestly said "let's give Trump a chance." Of course, Trump turned out to be a total slime ball, but hearts were in the right place. Fool me once, shame on you. Now it's time to not get fooled again.

Send that ★■◆●-face to prison.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:50 am
by Vander
vision wrote:In this case, Coulter really is giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and putting faith in him. When you break that down, it's the best anyone can do for another person to overcome prejudice.
It's like a dark comedy movie pitch: Can the Fox News Grandpa and the prolific right wing propagandist bridge their differences in order to enact intentionally cruel immigration policy, and become a shining example of overcoming prejudice.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:42 pm
by vision
Vander wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:50 amIt's like a dark comedy movie pitch: Can the Fox News Grandpa and the prolific right wing propagandist bridge their differences in order to enact intentionally cruel immigration policy, and become a shining example of overcoming prejudice.
Well yeah, when you put it that way it reinforces how messed up the whole situation is. My point is that generally smart, well-meaning people will try to see the best in people. It's difficult to be a good judge of character and I don't think it comes naturally for a lot of people.

I will say, however, I am at my breaking point with Trump apologists. A friend I see every weekend has a religious fascination with Trump and I actually raised my voice to him this weekend because he keeps saying absolutely stupid ★■◆● about Pres #45. My friend is a racist, BTW, and I called him out on it this at lunch yesterday because I'm sick of ignoring this ★■◆●. He's like a victim of domestic violence constantly making excuses for shitty behavior.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:30 am
by Vander
vision wrote:My point is that generally smart, well-meaning people will try to see the best in people. It's difficult to be a good judge of character and I don't think it comes naturally for a lot of people.
I'm not sure how much of that is at play with Trump, as I don't necessarily think Trump supporters have misjudged him. Coulter is a bit of a special case in that as a hardline propagandist, she has her own brand to protect, and her behavior is performative. But your average Republican supporter? My guess is even if they think he's incompetent, there's a heightened level of indifference because he's still delivering most of the policies they favor or holding at bay the policies they don't. And the super-fans that actually think he's competent? They just want someone who will be mean to all the people conservatives have been taught to hate. He's positioned himself as their champion in this regard, and it's what he's actually most competent at.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:14 pm
by vision
Vander wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:30 am...I don't necessarily think Trump supporters have misjudged him.
I think you're probably right. I think I'm guilty of trying to see Trump supporters in the best light, though some of them are undeniably horrible people. Deplorable even.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:28 pm
by Vander
Good people can still do sh!tty things or be irrational, and anyone can get caught up in the fervor of a movement. I can empathize with them to a point, and try rationalize their choices, but that doesn't make them any less wrong or dangerous.

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:54 pm
by Top Gun
I wish I could empathize with them more, but when I see massive hordes of people blatantly denying objective reality and voting for their own self-destruction, my overwhelming reaction is "★■◆● 'em."

Re: Well.. No ★■◆●.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:37 am
by Tunnelcat
Not only denying reality, but openly supporting a man who's clearly an unabashed traitor and who's obviously using his job as president to enrich himself, instead of the country he's supposedly representing. I mean, why the sneak and meet with a the dictator of a hostile nation and then actively hide what was said during those discussions? Even our national security agencies are having conniptions.

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/29/18202515/ ... 20-ft-note