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Ok... Im always down to see a car crash or a horrible didster right?...I always type sht into google that will net me images of either airline disasters or car crashes or other horrible mechanical events because for some reason i find "when good machines go bad" interesting.

I just think its interesting that we make these machines (plane, car, tractor, crain) and these machines kill us and do horrible things to us.

Anyway...

I try and find different words to type in as it usually get you different results (obviously).

I wont say the word i typed here and i wont be giving out any links but i came across a site that is trying to pretend its something else when it is clearly pornographic in nature and has nothing but kids on it.

The site is supposedly a photoshop site whereby people submit photos of kids with photoshop elements in them..Weather its a "neat" waterfall in the background or whatever..Anything that wasnt in the picture before. On the face it seems harmless.

"Little debbie with a car in her hand"
"Sarah with catching an airplane out of the air"

However in most of these shots there is always a panty shot, or the kids are posed in an adult manner.
No pics are nude but if you saw all these pics you'd be like.. "Ya right..Nice try on the photoshop bull★■◆●".

The site has an area of "about me and this site" where in it he says how he was inspired by this other site (which i checked out and is very legit) and then goes on too say something to the effect of "we are back up now after being shut down by our other host THEY STILL WONT TELL ME WHY!" (because hes pretending his ★■◆● is an art site)..

Now.. I looked at several of these images and many of them appear as if they have been submitted to this site for one of the following reasons:

A)The person submitting them was VERY naive and thought "hey thats neat, ill make one too" Because some looked like something your parents would make on the computer and hang on the fridge)

B)They were put there to dilute the other illegal images.

C)They are participating in this "ring".

For obvious reasons im not posting any links or even saying the word i googled.

Whats so wierd to me is that if i had come across this site and it said in big bold letters across the top "Kiddie Pron" i would be less disturbed. I would be like "OMG how cray" But what urks me is thinking about how this guy/s thinks hes getting away with something with this very thin veil of "neat pics being made".

I just wanted to hear some feedback from you guys on what you would do if you came across something like this..Googled no less...

I think i should fire an email off to google and let them take it form there..What i would NOT want to happen is for this guys isp to get an email..pull him down..and now hes just setting up shop on a new host..If i email google i think they might get an authority involved...

Ethics and Commentary...Whachya think?

*JBOMB* wrote:it is clearly pornographic in nature and has nothing but kids on it.
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However in most of these shots there is always a panty shot, or the kids are posed in an adult manner.
No pics are nude
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B)They were put there to dilute the other illegal images.
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I think i should fire an email off to google and let them take it form there..

From your description, there is nothing "illegal" going on. Hell, even if there was nudity it wouldn't be considered kiddie porn unless there was sex in it. You can pretty easily find books filled with artistic nudes of adolescent girls (see: David Hamilton). There are a bunch of sites out there that even cater to people who want to see nothing more than underage girls in provocate poses wearing lingerie (Sandi Model comes to mind). Simply put, unless there's something you're not telling me, I think you're overreacting to something foreign to you.

Now as to whether or not such behavior is healthy, that's something I'm not going to touch.

As for the Google bit, they seem to have an atmosphere around them that they're a common carrier. Now if that site popped up when you had safesearch turned on, that's one thing. But I know for a fact that you can easily find links to very questionably legal and illegal sites through a simple search. Chances are they get hundreds of e-mails a day of people complaining about obscene things on the internet, and I hightly doubt that they're going to do anything about it, especially in your case.

[spoiler]not pedo[/spoiler]

Thx for the reply tetrad and sadly i think your right.

I did some poking around the fbi site and was directed to the center for missing and exploited children.

There they define the law and what i found is not sexually explicit.

It burns me up though..On his site he says he can be found every sunday play pokemon cards at some recreation center in NY and if you go there to ask for "kevin" and "please dont say anything about my site to anyone else there but me".

Man...Im no big howard stern fan but stuff like this makes me think old men in suits are so fkn out of touch. Real crime walks around on the net without a care and stuffy humorless suits "must get rid of howard". Or...half a million dollar fine cause janet showed some boob...

Bah... Here i go back into the soup of life without helping one bit..

thx again tetrad...i was hoping a heavy hitter on the boards would weigh in.. Not kurupt going "Gimmie Linky!"......jk k

Where in NY? If it's in the city or on the island I'll make sure to go in there and tell everyone.

heres text from the area on that site just to creep you guys out like it did me. mind you this person says they are 17 years old (at time of posting) somehow i thinks its bull.... :
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creepy lawrence dude wrote:
As for me and my interests, I play the Pokemon Card Game on weekends regularly as it's a fun game.

If anyone lives in or plans to visit the New York metro area and would like to meet me
in person, I play at the Pokemon Center's league inside the concourse section
of Rockefeller Center. Enter the lobby where all the stores are located and I
should be near the starbucks coffee playing with other kids.

To give you an idea of where I'm talking about,
It's located under the NBC studios where the "Today" show is broadcast.
Head to the revolving doors nearby and go downstairs. There should be a area where
people will be playing cards. Ask around for Lawrence.
I'm only there every sunday from 11 am - 3:30pm

If you do see me, DON'T mention my web site to anyone else there but me.
This is also a good way to give me a CD or Floppies with pics to post if
you can, this would be the best way for me to get them online faster!

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Is that freakin shady or what!?

Ooh, perfect... a quick (meaning slow ) F train ride from work.

Tetrad seems a *bit* too familiar and that troubles me.


B-

Um, perhaps this guy's a kid and he's just posting pics of people his age? Hell, I was a pedo when i was 13 too, you know. rofl.

I mean, he does play pokemon.

If you live in NYC its kinda hard not to know where the rockafeller center is- and have at least a cursery idea of whats where in it.

Yeah.... I live in L.A. and know where rockefeller center is.

Im over it...This guy is a creepy weirdo who i wouldnt want near children but oh well...thats the net for you..

It just proves my theory once again:
People suck.

it all seems a little too obvious to me. perhaps this is an FBI netting scheme. or perhaps the "today" show upstairs is trying to build a story about paedo rings in NY (omgomg), a story with "exclusive secret footage".

i mean, from that site, don't you think other people have tried to attack this guy already? he's prolly a spook that just arrests people (or at least tags them) who give him underage porn. it's a good idea

Yeah I actually thought of that, like "wait a sec what if it's a sting?" Then I decided I'd give him a blank disc.

your photo will be taken before you ever give him the disk. so they can track you down, after the fact (if), that they have proven the contents of the disk.

either way, it'l be fun, coz it's either the fbi and htey will have nothing on you anyway. or it's some sick ★■◆● and you can inform some parents, perhaps you should print out the site to carry with you as (IN YOUR FACE FUCKER!!!~!) proof.

I was actually thinking of calling the NYPD ahead of time.

Then I realized this is a complete waste of time.

nono, combat apathy! go do it