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Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:28 pm**

TAMPA, Fla. - A newlywed middle school teacher has been charged with having sex numerous times with a 14-year-old student, including in a classroom, her apartment and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove.

Debra Beasley Lafave, 23, turned herself in to Marion County authorities in Ocala Monday. She was released on $25,000 bail.

Lafave, of Riverview, is a reading teacher at Greco Middle School in Temple Terrace, a few miles north of Tampa. She was charged with two counts of lewd and lascivious battery and one count of lewd and lascivious exhibition.

Authorities say Lafave, who has been married less than a year, had sex with the student in the back of her sport utility vehicle while the student's 15- year-old cousin drove them around the Ocala area.

Monday's charges are in addition to those from last week's arrest in Temple Terrace, when she was charged with two counts of committing lewd and lascivious battery for allegedly having sex with the teen in a portable classroom at her school. She was out on bond from last week's arrest when she turned herself in Monday.

Lafave's lawyer, John Fitzgibbons, said he was not ready to respond to the allegations.

"There is a presumption of innocence in this country," he said.

Marion County detectives said the boy and his cousin provided matching statements incriminating the teacher and that the 14-year-old was able to identify tattoos and birthmarks on Lafave's body and the layout of her apartment.

The teen told investigators that he and Lafave got to know each other on their way back from a middle school graduating class trip to SeaWorld Orlando last month.

He said that she would invite him to her class during detention and ended up taking him to his basketball practices at a recreation center, to get his hair cut and to his house, the report said.

Lafave gave the boy her cell phone number on the last day of school, the boy told detectives. The sexual relationship allegedly began on June 3.

Lafave, who has worked with the Hillsborough County school system for two years, has been placed on administrative duty and could be suspended without pay following the next school board meeting, officials said.

The boy told detectives that Lafave told him that her marriage was in trouble and that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allowed.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/ne ... 626.htm?1c

Here are a couple pics of hers....

Here are some of her wedding pics
http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prs ... ust=-1&d=0

Here is the link to smoking gun(Read page 3)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:30 pm**

Is it me, or does it look like her head has been stuck on?

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:37 pm**

eh, take the granny panties off of her then id do her too

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:05 pm**

LOL @ BattleBot pretending he's got discriminating tastes... heh...

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:30 pm**

Apparently you've never seen granny panties, because those certainly aren't.

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:31 pm**

If I was 14, I'd be all over that.

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:25 pm**

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:47 pm**

I dunno, you gotta question her motives. I mean, her husband isn't a bad looking guy, she's a pretty hot woman herself, and a 14 year old boy would probably cream his shorts the second she took her top off. I mean, just because it's not allowed and that excites you doesn't make up for the fact that the kid doesn't know wtf he's doing. On the other side of the coin, I don't see why this should be illegal. Any 14 year old hetero male would jump at the chance to hit that hottness. I know I would've.

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:16 pm**

Tyranny wrote:Apparently you've never seen granny panties, because those certainly aren't.

i was being sarcastic....a little...

i know granny panties go above your belly-button, i know, ive tried em myself. but if shes sitting on a motorcycle like that, she should have had a much smaller bikini...either that or be naked

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:35 pm**

Battlebot wrote:i know granny panties go above your belly-button, i know, ive tried em myself.

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Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:19 pm**

Battlebot wrote:i know granny panties go above your belly-button, i know, ive tried em myself.

I give you the perfect sig

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Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:33 pm**

bit of a butterface but i'd hit it.

BTW: how much you wanna bet they'll claim the boy was 'traumatized'

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:46 pm**

That kid's the ★■◆●ing man and nothing anyone says will change my opinion about that

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:59 am**

You shouldn't need to ask the question "Why is it illegal?". It goes without saying, sure at 14 I woulda wanted some action with that but there are good reasons why young kids aren't allowed to have sex. Especially with adults.

Most kids don't even give STDs the time of day until they end up getting them and by then they have enough sense to realize their mistakes after the fact. Adults have a better understanding of such things (Atleast the smart ones, where they are I couldn't tell you

) and therefor have sex under personal responsibility.

Another reason is because we don't need minors having sex and bringing new life into this world (yeah, like it doesn't happen already) without the ability to care for a child.

Also it comes down to a matter of morals combined with what I mentioned previously. Each state has different ages for consent. Personally I think 18 should be a standard age nationwide, but it isn't. When I was a teenager I knew a lot of 18 year olds that had no clue as to what they were doing and what was going on in the world around them. Course, I know a lot of people my age and up with the same problem

We live such long lives now that it just cheapens your life experience when you take a gamble at such a young age and lose. Then you have to spend the rest of your life dealing with the consequences. Unfortunately some people don't figure these things out until the end and when you make stupid mistakes the end can be here before you know it.

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:29 am**

Vertigo 99 wrote:That kid's the ****ing man and nothing anyone says will change my opinion about that

word

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:32 am**

what i wanna know is where all these abstinance and virgin by choice people live where STD's are so rampant? I've seen so many naked people... and never one STD. only in health class in 8th grade when they used that as a scare tactic and when bfdd posts his warty pen1s owned picture. wtf, get out of san francisco if you dont want std's.

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:57 am**

Well said Tyranny.

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:09 pm**

i read this story yesterday on google news. apparently the young mac had a cousin that was watching the teacher bang him. then the dumbass cousin told his parents about it.
i'd be like “thanx cous’... you just ruined my schooling for the day and year, idiot.”

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:30 pm**

" without the ability to care for a child. "

Most adults don't have that ability either.

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:15 pm**

id bang the sh!t outta her

back in those days.....lets see 14 years old.....8th grade....i was a pain in the ass to my teachers

maybe some good sex would get me to behave

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:49 pm**

Imagine the next few years any girl telling her parents she's going out with this kid.

"Where are you going darling?"

"With Johnny, no place special, we're just going to ride around. His cousin has a car...."

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:00 pm**

I wonder what her husband Mr Studly thinks about being out hammered by a 15 year old

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:53 pm**

woodchip wrote:I wonder what her husband Mr Studly thinks about being out hammered by a 15 year old

"why didnt you invite me???"

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:26 pm**

. apparently the young mac had a cousin that was watching the teacher bang him. then the dumbass cousin told his parents about it.

heh, we all know how this went down.

Act I Scene III
Our young protagonist leaves the stage after a hard days work

Cousin: So um, hi, I was just, sitting here, in the corner...
Teacher: Oh (blush), um, I didn't even notice you. How are you doing, do you have any questions on the homework?
Cousin: well, kinda, um, not exactly, I was just...wondering, you know...
Teacher: Yes?
Cousin: Well, that thing you and my cousin do, well, I feel embaressed saying this,(small chuckle) but, I'm still a Virgin.
Teacher: Oh..um, Cousin, well, how do I put this. Your a really sweet kid and all,and your grades are almost perfect..
Cousin: I try very hard in your class mame.
Teacher: but...ya know, I view you more as a Student.
Cousin: Oh, I see..., well um..., no harm in askin eh? cya in class tomarrow.
exit stage: Cousin. Lights Darken

Act II Scene I Cousin's Parent's house: enter cousin

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:52 pm**

Interesting how the tone of these posts would be so much different if the "offence" involved this woman's husband and a 14 year old girl. Such as your sister or daughter perhaps

. No matter how consensual the event was I suspect there would be quite a different take on it all.

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:18 pm**

Her eyes make her look like a soulless b!tch.

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:22 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:00 am**

I'd feel the same way if it was a 14 year old girl with an older man. Actually more so because I feel young women are more prone to be taken advantage of then young men are. Perhaps I'm a bit biased *shrug*

kur, being that you have no qualm about sexual activity being very sexual yourself I think you'll have a hard time seeing the bigger picture. However, knowing you as well as I do, I could be wrong.

All it takes is having a child to finally realize how you really feel on the subject. Some of us though have good foresight years before we ever have children.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2004 8:25 am**

cool, i think im the only one who says.. no!

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:01 am**

thats only cos your g/f is behind your back haggeth

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:34 am**

The thing is "the cousin" rolled on him.... the BabyMac was the dumbass admiting his cousin was not full of Shiz!

He could have still been tapping it!

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:50 am**

my small STD rant was because i saw a commercial on TV almost right beforehand about virgins by choice... which is fine and all, if you wanna save yourself for your wife/husband then more power to ya. but to me it looked ALOT like a scare tactic aimed at young people with their rampant use of "oh noes!! you'll get STDeeeeeeeeeee's! if you have secks before marriage!1!!1" and that bothered me a little.

i have seriously never seen an STD in person, not even a crab jumping on a public toilet seat, and i AM a very sexual person. i've never had a friend tell me a story about how he met this fine lady but she had (fill in blank) and it was nasty, or anything.

i just think it would be more useful propaganda to make commercials about how crack makes you get roids from having to suck infested c0ck for crack money. i think it would turn more people away from trying crack at a party than an STD commercial would deter someone young from trying out sex at a party. money that could be used for something more useful.

about the comment of switching the 14 year old boy and woman with the husband and a 14 year old girl... of course things would be different. it is expected for young men of that age to chase tail 100% of the time. if the rare chance comes along that they actually catch it, this country congratulates them with a nice pat on the back and an "atta boy!" if it was an older man having sex with a younger girl he would go to jail and she would be on montell talking about how horrible it was. thats just the way this country is.

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:36 pm**

Tyr: are you saying a 14 yo boy would feel the same about this as a 14 yo girl?

Posted: **Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:43 pm**

Yeah huge difference.

14 year old boys want to hump anything that moves. 14 year old girls are scared, they don't even think about sex as an option, typically.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:44 am**

No Ferny, I'm saying it doesn't matter to me which gender a person is. I still look at it the same way. If they're 14 they're 14 and they need to keep it in their pants. Likewise adults that can't seem to make the distinction between 'right and wrong' who interact with them need to do the same.

Also I was making the distinction that I'd be more sympathetic towards a 14 year old girl who had sex with a man who is much older then her. Even though the boy was taken advantage of in this instance I'm almost posetive he doesn't feel that way.

As well there are situations where he may very well have had some amount of sway over this woman for whatever reason. To me though this type of scenario could only happen because she lacked mental maturity and had no concept of moral responsibility. These are characteristics that have no discernable age for understanding but most adults in their twenties should have these traits by then.

Simply put though, she gambled and lost. The thrill of it was more out of pure fear of possibly being found out engaging in activities with this boy without any comprehension of the repercussion that would follow when they were found out. The sex was secondary to this. She had more stimulus by taking the risk obviously.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:07 am**

Tyranny wrote:She had more stimulus by taking the risk obviously.

The obvious solution is to lower the legal age to something much lower, so the "legal risk" is gone.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:51 pm**

Tetrad just wants his G: drive to be legal

Seriously though... what age do you think "legal age" should be, and why? Do you think a 14 year old can be responsible with the way they approach sex? If you answer yes, do you actually *know* any 14 year olds?

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:28 pm**

Yes.

My brother and sister, both 14

and i think it should be legal because people mature at different ages. there are 18 year olds that SHOULD NOT be having sex, and there are 14 year olds that easily could be. to say that you suddenly "get mature" at a certain age is bull★■◆●.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:36 pm**

Lothar, I'm sure the "thrill" she got out of it was more due to the fact that he was her student and not that he was underage.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:43 pm**

... or maybe the fact that it was sex? I think that usually is kind of, you know, thrilling.

But anyway, in light of your last post (the thrill being more about him being a student than being underage), isn't your solution (lowering the legal age) actually not a solution at all? If you see the "student" thing as more important than the "legal age" thing, your solution has nothing to do with what you've identified as the major issue.

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Who wouldn't?

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