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It's Edwards
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:46 pm
by Birdseye
Thank god Kerry didn't pick gephardt! That would have been the bored-to-death ticket.
Edwards brings some vibrance to Kerry's boring image.
What do you guys think of Edwards? Brings balance being from the south, for South Carolina folks like Will ;p
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:51 pm
by Nightshade
I think a comparable image would be a little native boy trying to pull an Easter Island stone head around with a vine.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:54 pm
by Lothar
I like the
NY Post Exclusive on Gebhardt being picked ;)
Edwards was a pretty good choice... one of my major beefs with Kerry is that he never says anything with any substance to it, but the few times I've heard Edwards speak he's actually conveyed information. His being from the south will probably help Kerry some, but I don't think it'll be nearly enough. I didn't think much of Gore's choice of Lieberman 4 years ago, but I think he'd have been a better choice for Kerry, because he's actually fairly tough on defense, which is still one of Kerry's major weaknesses.
Now I just hope Bush trumps this by bringing in Condi ;)
Re: It's Edwards
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:58 pm
by Will Robinson
Birdseye wrote:Brings balance being from the south, for South Carolina folks like Will ;p
Heh, I hear he declined from seeking re-election as senator because he knew he couldn't get re-elected.
I guess he wasn't picked for his ability to deliver a southern state since he can't even get re-elected in his own home state!
I heard a funny one on the radio about it:
Kerry Edwards - The 'Gee my Hair Smells Terrific' ticket
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:38 pm
by Vander
Well, Clark was my first choice, but Kerry never answered my emails, so he didn't get this important information.
Since I'm in the Anyone But Bush crowd, I guess I will have to forgive Kerry.
I suppose there are two patterns of thought:
1) Try to squeeze votes from the center/center-right. The folks disillusioned by the Bush administration.
2) Try to awaken the vast 50% of the people who didn't vote in the last presidential election.
I guess the Kerry folks are going for number two.
I would have gone for number one. My take is that the country, lead by fearless leader, has become very polarized. I think the whole McCain VP dream (that I thought hurt Kerry) signaled a motivation to ease the polarization.
I'm skeptical of the choice of Edwards, but oh well. Hopefully it ends with a Kerry inauguration.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:40 pm
by Gooberman
I was still hoping for McCain. That ticket would have been unbeatable. Oh well, maybe i'll get my Arizona president in four years.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:18 pm
by Lothar
Interesting... does anyone remember what happened back in
January? Seems like Kerry decided to flip-flop on this one too...
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:43 pm
by Vander
Heh.
Nevermind that Kerry was in a primary battle trying to distinguish himself from Edwards for the party's pick for President. Or that he was talking about the Presidential slot on the ticket. Is it possible that Kerry thinks that the Presidential slot on the ticket doesn't need big appeal in the south, while at the same time thinking that his VP candidate probably does? Are those two different positions for one issue?
I have a feeling that if the sky suddenly turned green and Kerry said "wow, the sky is green," some diligent blogger would find an old quote from Kerry in which he mentions a blue sky, and claim that Kerry is a flip flopper reinventing himself based on a poll that says most Americans think the sky is green.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:33 pm
by Will Robinson
I think the very few that haven't already decided who they will vote for are now faced with the option of voting for the 'good looking guy' on Kerry's team.
Crap, what's worse, the fact that a pretty face might actually win some undecided votes or the fact that Kerry & Co. think that's the best option they have to offer in a VP choice?
The only thing I really know about Edwards is he didn't just pull himself up by the bootstraps and come from low income to earn a fortune, he earned that fortune by being a scumbag ambulance chasing trial lawyer.
Oh joy.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:46 pm
by DCrazy
Heh, some dude figured out a way to make a quick buck... at about 5:00 this afternoon he was standing on the corner of 42nd St and 7th Ave in the middle of Times Sq hawking "collectible" NY Post's with the "KERRY PICKS GEBHARDT" headline.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:06 am
by woodchip
So now we have the french looking New JFK and the Breck Girl as the dems best and brightest. This is all the dems can come up with?
"My take is that the country, lead by fearless leader, has become very polarized." Vander
It became polarised during the Bush/Algore election.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:53 am
by Vertigo 99
how the ★■◆● does someone "look" french?
I mean, i guess there are some traits that french people can have (none of which kerry has, btw), but only a stupid conservative would try to pin them on the other party's candidate in a derogatory way.
kerry looks about as french as bush looks african.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:29 am
by Zuruck
hmmmm....a lawyer vs a heart attack waiting to happen in a debate...should be good.
like vander, not first choice but anyone but bush will work for me.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:08 pm
by Will Robinson
Zuruck wrote:...not first choice but anyone but bush will work for me.
I hear Saddam is looking for work....
Maybe you should raise the bar a little more and invest some thought into your position...or does blind hatred qualify as a position these days.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:26 pm
by Lothar
the thing about Edwards being OK "because Anyone but Bush works for me" is that, well, Kerry already had the ABB vote.
I doubt Edwards will pull much of the center vote. He's from the south, but he's not tremendously popular down there...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:11 am
by Zuruck
i think it qualifies as a position will. right now at this point in time, ANYBODY is better than bush.
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:05 pm
by woodchip
Zuruck, too bad then as Kerry and Edwards are nobody. See...two can play at this game.
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:04 pm
by Avder
I agree with Zuruck. Anybody is better than bush, imo. However, I really wish hed start elaborating on some things. Atleast I sort of elaborate sometimes....dont I?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:00 pm
by index_html
War profiteer ...
During the buildup and aftermath of the Iraq war, Edwards bought and sold stock in several defense contractors, including Lockheed Martin, United Technologies, General Electric, British Petroleum, and General Dynamics.
Link
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:16 pm
by Tetrad
I hardly think taking advantage of market trends puts him at being a war profiteer. Now if he bought stocks in war companies, then after the fact voted to go to war, or give contracts to said companies, that's something else entirely.
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:47 pm
by index_html
I meant that to be tongue-in-cheek as a hat tip to the "Haliburton!" mantra and the Pillsbury Doughboy's "merceneries". Edwards did vote for the war (but against the funding bill). I have no idea exactly when or why he bought his stocks. I'm just jumping on the groundless innuendo bandwagon. Maybe I'll start a conspiracy theory, it's all the rage these days
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:48 am
by Will Robinson
I think the Dem's better quit the line of attack on Cheney because of his past with Haliburton because Edwards past is not something they want to expose.
In fact earning money by helping put out oil well fires and helping drill for oil becomes rather commendable compared to Edwards' resume of exploiting a niche market...the market of fooling jury's into believing something he knew wasn't true so he could take 40% of the multi-million dollar awards!
Edwards made the bulk of his money convincing jury's that the hospital and doctors caused cerebral palsey, he would put the poor afflicted child on display in the court room and use junk science to play off the jurors emotions and they would award him 100's of millions of dollars.
Try to find an obstetrician in some states...it's not easy because they are leaving the state or the field due to insurance costs that have gone out of control due to ambulance chasing lawyers, or wheelchair chasers in Edwards case.
Tort reform is badly needed in this country and apparantly Kerry/Edwards are just the guys to not get it done!
As soon as Edwards dropped out of the race he started diverting his funds to Kerry. He pretty much bought his place as vice presidential candidate with the donations he was able to redirect from his trial lawyer supporters.
Quite a resume, he scams jury's to 'earn' millions in malpractice suits....he uses that money to finance his run for the U.S. Senate....he quickly abandons that post because he knows he can't get re-elected by his own people and jumps in the presidential race where he comes up short.....so he buys his way into the vice presidential ticket under Kerry with the money from the trial lawyers....
How much do you want to bet they campain on providing affordable health care for the poor people who can't afford the high priced doctors who charge so much because they pay over $200,000 insurance premiums to protect themselves from guys like Edwards?!?!
Whether or not he's qualified to be president one things for sure, he certainly is qualified to be a democrat! He's got that down to perfection.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:59 am
by Zuruck
Tort reform is needed. But I dont know what's worse. Raping insurance companies or raping the environment, the average citizen, and 800+ soldiers of their lives, you tell me. (post character count met)
my small post two cents. nothing to back up, pure opinion
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:32 pm
by Birdseye
will, if you could give the rest of us the story that would be helpful
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:42 pm
by bash
Interesting that yesterday the Dems blocked the Senate from passing the Class-Action Lawsuit Bill aimed at preventing trial lawyers from jury shopping from state to state.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:37 pm
by Will Robinson
Birdseye wrote:will, if you could give the rest of us the story that would be helpful
Sorry you'll have to search for it, shouldn't be hard to find. Here are a few sources I could remember.
My opinion of Edwards doesn't come from one story but rather, the culmination of many stories. No doubt the Bush team will be bringing some to light soon enough.
http://techcentralstation.com/070704B.html
http://www.overlawyered.com/archives/001265.html
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/annc ... 0708.shtml
linkified by Lothar -- it was making me scroll
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4798572/
had to edit in another one
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadAr ... p?ID=14126
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:58 pm
by woodchip
Will, the curious thing is that there was a certain procedure the doctoers used to facilitate the birthing process in specific cases. Because of Edwards sueing over how the procedure caused cerebral palsey in a very low percentages of cases, that particular procedure was abandoned by the doctors. Funny thing though was that the percentage of cases where C.P. occured from complication from birthing did not decrease after the procedure in question was abandoned.
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:31 pm
by Top Wop
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:36 pm
by bash
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:41 pm
by Dedman
From the article Lothar posted a link to:
"Everybody always makes the mistake of looking South," Kerry said, in response to a question about winning the region. "Al Gore proved he could have been president of the United States without winning one Southern state, including his own."
As Glenn Reynolds noted: "Um, no. Al Gore proved that he couldn't win the United States without carrying one Southern state, including his own."
Now THAT'S FUNNY.