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Idea for increased Descent public interest...

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:08 am
by Johnny M
I was just thinkin'... ya know what'd really get a lot of people into Descent. Is a movie. Ever see the movie hackers? At the time, that movie got soo many non-computer type people into computers. I also recall seeing a movie that was about SuperMarioBrothers 3 for the Nintendo, back before the game came out... at the time, I loved it, which shows that an exciting movie can be made about a game. Or another movie that got people into things... the Fast and the Furious. Wow, look at all the soooped up Civics now. Maybe one of the talented writers of the Descent community should start a script... well, it's not really a serious thought, but I felt it was worthy of the DBB.

Johnny_M

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:04 am
by []V[]essenjah
Hmmmm.... I dunno, it depends. I don't really know if I would watch Teleps take on it. I thought the books were ok. Really I think a new series simular to Descent as a movie would be awsome though. I would go see the movie. though. It really depends on how they do it.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:39 am
by Vindicator
Hello and welcome to 8 years ago! :P

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:16 am
by roid
i wouldn't mind making a descent puppet show.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:19 am
by Robo
I had a script written for a Descent film once... I'll see if I can recover it.

I even did a screenplay of the intro to the film.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:37 am
by Jeff250
Kinda like how the Wing Commander movie restored the Wing Commander series? Oh, wait... :P

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:42 am
by Battlebot
oh speaking of which, does anyone have the d3 cutscenes by themselves that you can watch. cuz im bored and i want to watch something

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:42 am
by Vertigo 99
Jeff250 wrote:Kinda like how the Wing Commander movie restored the Wing Commander series? Oh, wait... :P

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:44 am
by Topher
Battlebot wrote:oh speaking of which, does anyone have the d3 cutscenes by themselves that you can watch. cuz im bored and i want to watch something
I'm not sure, but I think MVEEXT32 can make them into EXE files to run. You would have to find a copy of it though since Interplay had a fit and HHsoft had to take it down.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:08 am
by Krom

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:24 am
by BUBBALOU
When you get the MVE extractor make sure you have the TAHOMA font, but hey it works, and if you have the whole suite of Descent2.coms apps and plugins then the programming makes sense, other wise its a chop shop.

Think of it this way seperately it's like taking Photoshop CS, removing every feature and having a seperate install and location for each...weird. but you will understand once you install something from Descent-Netw0rk! :)

I have had the MVE extractor for quite a few years it was embedded in one of their programs

PS after you extract every MVE from D2 and D3, burn em all to disk and include the MVE program... create an ISO and BT it! :)

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:25 am
by AceCombat
hey bubba check DBB PM

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:05 pm
by Nitrofox125
In the Mac version they actually come as .mov files (or are you talking about the one before and after *every* level? I can post them if you want.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:10 pm
by Top Gun
A Descent movie is yet another one of those things that can never happen. That being said, I'd be off in a heartbeat to see such a movie :).

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:04 pm
by BUBBALOU
Nitrofox125 wrote:In the Mac version they actually come as .mov files (or are you talking about the one before and after *every* level? I can post them if you want.
Are you refereing to the Descent 1 mov files? I can extract those out of the D1 PSX disc if ya need them, just like I did with the Music files

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:16 pm
by TheCops
Who's up for an exciting, thrilling and above all, sexy, Descent movie?
who's gonna pay for it? 'cause i ain't chippin' in anything if it cuts into my wondrous punch budget.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:51 pm
by Avder
What about a freespace movie? The whole plot of that game series is just primed to be made into a movie.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:59 pm
by Lothar
The first Freespace, yes...

The second Freespace... once someone explains the ending, maybe. It left me almost as lost as the third Matrix movie...

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:10 pm
by roid
i have a homemade movie festival comming up that i have been asked to enter. you guys are giving me ideas :D

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:45 pm
by MD-2389
Lothar wrote:The first Freespace, yes...

The second Freespace... once someone explains the ending, maybe. It left me almost as lost as the third Matrix movie...
Thats because they were going to do an expansion pack so they left a "cliffhanger" to make people want it.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:00 pm
by Mobius
Descent would absolutely SUCK as a movie.

Especially if Jerry "I'm an idiot" Bruckheimer did it!

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:56 pm
by Lothar
MD-2389 wrote:
Lothar wrote:The first Freespace, yes...

The second Freespace... once someone explains the ending, maybe. It left me almost as lost as the third Matrix movie...
Thats because they were going to do an expansion pack so they left a "cliffhanger" to make people want it.
Does the expansion pack actually exist?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:13 pm
by Vertigo 99
Mobius wrote: Jerry "I'm an idiot" Bruckheimer
owow that was clever i'm reeling

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:53 pm
by Stupid
I'd vote for Vlider to write our script.... If a D3 movie is made, we should make it every bit as cheesy and funny as Star Ship Troopers #1 and #2. He'd succeed in the Funny part, but we'd have to leave it up to the bad director to make it cheesy. BTW... I love CHEESE... it tastes soo good! *aftereffects of saying CHEESY way too many times in one post on an empty stomach!

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:09 am
by DarkHorse
Lothar wrote:
MD-2389 wrote:
Lothar wrote:The first Freespace, yes...

The second Freespace... once someone explains the ending, maybe. It left me almost as lost as the third Matrix movie...
Thats because they were going to do an expansion pack so they left a "cliffhanger" to make people want it.
Does the expansion pack actually exist?
No. I don't think FS2 sold well enough.

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:28 am
by HaAGen DaZS
i think if they stuck to a good storyline (like maybe mixed all 3 games) so that you have a brief rundown of why MD wants to bring down Dravis, and if they used the actual ships(!!!) then a movie could be quite good.

id pay to see it...

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:34 pm
by Vlider
well i wouldnt aim at making it cheezy. i'd make it along the lines of starwars space battles when they're flying in the x-wings to the core of the deathstar.

i can imagine two pyros dogfighting in the mines on a big screen with special FX that would be badass and something a little different from a movie stand point.

and i wouldn't base it on vertigo. I'd base it on us, the mercenaries and clans or fleets if you will. With the blue shield orb as the main energy source that everyone is fighting over.

however iam writing a space comedy which will spoof the hell out of star trek. and im not talking galaxy quest style, that was for kids.

what im talking is american pie/bad santa in space type of comedy.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:48 pm
by *JBOMB*
They already had a TV show based on the Descent series of video games. It has been a while since i have seen any of the episodes. It was called "The Dukes of Hazard" and was loosely based on D3 and its community.

It wasnt so much about the actual game as it was the community that surrounded the game.

Koo Koo...Cmon Flash!

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:28 pm
by Stryker
In any case, you'd have to do something about the way pyros are armed. Flying over a gun and hearing a "shooook" sound then seeing the hero fire it instantly wouldn't be very appealing.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:31 pm
by Duper
After reading all this.. I'm definately feel more interested in Descent.


;)

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:07 pm
by RSDx
Ummm...I'd rent it when it went direct to video...heh

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:54 pm
by Nitrofox125
Well, we can make this happen almost for free.

a) Start a thread (heck, even an entire forum!) for movie dev.
b) Start a "communal script" writers write different sections of the script (or one person can write, I'd love to do it I just don't have a lot of time). The script is posted for anyone to edit/comment on.
c) We have a plethora of 3D models already from you guys, we also have a hell of a lot of animation talent here, we'd have no problem with that.
d) I for one volunteer my editing system (Final Cut Pro 4 + xtras) to edit the movie on.
e) Obtain rights (might wanna do this first ;) )
f) Either
1. Find a distributor into theatres
2. Make it funny/interesting enough to become a Red-vs-Blue style series, have it avaliable for download and DVD purchasing
3. Just go straight to Video/DVD.

The only cost would be time and VHSs and DVDs. It would be a fun project even if it wasn't for the purpose of theaters.

[edit] As a matter of fact, I'll start a poll :) [/edit]

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:55 am
by DCrazy
I don't think the Descent genre would translate very well to screen. It was hard enough becoming a book.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:24 am
by Stryker
It would be incredibly hard making a D movie. Any of you see the Bourne Supremacy? That fight in the early-middle portion against the other last agent remnant of the Treadstone project? I saw that in the theater... And let's just say I couldn't follow which way their arms went it happened so fast. Given that most people aren't as fast-moving in reaction time/thought as D3ers, the general public would have an incredibly hard time following the action, which would be mostly what makes the movie.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:07 pm
by DCrazy
The reason you couldn't follow it is because the director just graduated from the School of ShakeTheCameraReallyFastAndGiveViewersAHeadache.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:52 pm
by *JBOMB*
Stryker.....give the audience more credit ;)
I hate movies that assume the human brain cant process "all this" information...Just because a guy in a movie is smoking a cigarette doesnt mean we have to see him open the pack, get out his lighter and light it..

Im just sayin....

Not to mention the fact that a movie about d3 (as dumb as this idea is) would not actually be shot "in game" :)

Besides..i liked the D3 movie better the first time i saw it...When is was called Battlestar Gallactica.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:15 pm
by Kd527
I'd see movies based on Peter Telep's books as long as they filtered out the questionable seens and maybe toned down the language. Other than that, tho, the books were great. People that don't play descent tho, would think we're all the more weird after they saw the movie. all the drones and reactors. great in a game. I guess if the books were good, the movie might attract people.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:35 pm
by Skyalmian
*cue Mobius jumping in to deliver his comment on the Descent novels.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:43 pm
by Nitrofox125
It's not like you would point a camera at the screen and play D3, nor would you spend all your time in a movie in the Pyro. MD would perhaps be in the Pyro 25% of the movie?, and mostly only for the action sequences. Pyro shots wouldn't have to be shot any differently than, like a previous person said, the Death Star scene in Star Wars IV. People could easily see what was going on. Only a bad cinematographer can't show speed and keep it clear at the same time.

Perhaps think of hte movie this way:
1. Establishing Shots => Mine being built, mebbe an ad for PTMC to show the year, goals, etc.
2. Exposition => 'Bots going bad, destroying stuff.
3. Character Introduction => Dravis calls on MD to secure the mines.
4. Action => MD secures the mine(s).
5. Twist => Dravis tries to kill MD. Audience finds out about an "evil scheme."
6. More Action => Descent 2-3 style?
7. Conclusion => Yeah.

For those of you worried about this being "too much like a video game", actualy pyro/mine shots would only be in scenes 4 and 6.
For those worried about this being "too little like the game", sections 4 and 6 could be expanded to up to 50% of the screen time.

Any storyline could be shot this way, I was just using the one actually in Descent.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:58 pm
by *JBOMB*
How about a scene where our hero rounds a corner and is splashed by 3 balls of fusion. At this point the camera pans across his angry face, matrix style. He throws his fist in the air and with the intensity of something from lord of the rings he exlaims: "This is why skybox is buwelsht!"