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Electronic voting trustworthy?
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:51 am
by Avder
I dont know about you, but this scares the crapola out of me...
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print.php?sid=17253
What do you guys think about some of the computerized voting stuff? I'd like to see some right wing stuff regarding the subject, too.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:44 pm
by Wolf on Air
Given that the security of the systems shown off to date has been zero (Windows and MS Access, for crying out loud!) and there being zero peer review - no, no way.
(btw, there is some slight irony in that this is an electronic vote...)
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:31 pm
by DCrazy
Under no circumstances are electronic votes more trustworthy than paper votes.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:41 pm
by Top Gun
I still like the 50-year-old mechanical voting machines that my county uses
. I agree that electronic voting techniques are too unreliable and risky to justify widespread use at this time. Where they are used, a paper trail should be an absolute necessity. However, in the case of Florida, the risks of electronic voting far outweigh the alternative of relying on dimpled chads
.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:18 pm
by DCrazy
Why? So that people with arthritis or Parkinson's can accidentally tap the wrong selection? No thanks.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:34 pm
by fliptw
electronic voting may be faster, more accurate, and easier, but the current batch of equipment is just crap.
Like, I knew a guy who wrote a web-based voting system for my Students Association. It worked.
all things considered. its a pretty easy thing to code.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:17 pm
by DCrazy
It's easy to code, and it's not even that much harder to secure than a standard business app. The problem is that in this country it's illegal for voting to be too hard for morons to use. At least the idiocy gap filters out the worst of the bunch in computer use.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:28 pm
by fliptw
electronic voting would also make it easier to vote if the effort was put into the interface.
A paper trail would be nice also.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:40 pm
by Grendel
Is it just me that finds this threats title funny ?
"Poll: Electronic voting trustworthy?"
Edit: ah, bad skimming me..
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:25 pm
by MD-2389
Seeing as anyone with a clue can rig them with ease, hell no.
Having a paper trail is A-1 Supar!
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:03 pm
by Vander
How are we supposed to trust the results of this DBB poll if there is no paper trail?!?!
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:08 pm
by Avder
Good call
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:48 pm
by Kyouryuu
Some critics of electronic voting machines decry that there is no paper trail, so sleazeball companies like Diebold can get away with fixing elections. Suppose we had a paper trial, and everyone got a little receipt identifying who they voted for in addition to the copy given to the voting office. How has the computerized system saved any time? It hasn't. You might as well take that single paper ballot and hand it to the election official and call it a day.
Technology for the sake of technology is a hideous practice.