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Linksys router getting in the way.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:36 pm
by TigerRaptor
I just bought a Linksys Wireless - G broadband router model WRT54G, and it's getting in the way of things. Probley because of the hardware firewall it uses. I can access web, games, and AIM ok. But when I try to host a decided server in UT2004 or Battlefield 1942 no one can see it. In AIM I have a hard time trying to connect to my friends using the Direct IM Connection. When I try to download anime off of Kazaa lite K++ and Overnet most of the files come up with more sources needed. Yeah I know those programs have spy ware but not I'm waiting 1 or 2 years for to be converted to English. Is there a way to set my computer to bypass the routers firewall or even shut off the firewall? Note: If I just go through the modem every thing works fine.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:19 pm
by IceFire
Hiya bud! Greetz from a former WC!

You might want to try putting that computer running those game servers and kazaa and Overnet into the DMZ of the router. I don't have the same model of Linksys router, but I imagine the setup screens are similar. On my router config pages I would click on "advnaced" and then click on "DMZ host". On that page put the internal IP address (i.e. 192.168.1.x) of that computer. Placing the computer in the DMZ puts it outside firewall of the router. It helps if that computer has a static internal address and not a dynamic internal one assigned by the DCHP server of the router.

Otherwise you need to find out which ports need to be forwarded for all those programs for them to work properly behind the firewall.

Hope this helps.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:00 pm
by STRESSTEST
bad idea. Just forward the ports

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:07 am
by CDN_Merlin
STRESSTEST wrote:bad idea. Just forward the ports
ditto.

Putting a PC in the DMZ zone is bad since it basically puts you on the other side of the router(open to attacks).

Just forward the ports the games need to your LAN IP in the router setup.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:34 am
by BUBBALOU
Before anything else UNINSTALL Kazza !@ Bit Torrent is your friend

AOL IM
OUT TCP 4099
IN TCP 5190

UNREAL-UT2K4

IN UDP 7777 (default gameplay port)
IN UDP 7778 (server query port
IN UDP 7779+ (UDP 7779+ are allocated dynamically for each helper UdpLink objects, including ServerUplin objects. Try starting with 7779-7781 and add ports if needed.))
IN UDP 27900 (server query, if master server uplink is enabled. Some master servers use other ports, like 27500)

BF 1942
allow udp port 14567
allow udp 22000 (THIS IS ONLY FOR LAN GAMES. If you don't want that accessible from the net,
don't open it)
allow udp range 23000 23009
# Gamespy Master Server UDP Heartbeat
allow udp port 27900
# Gamespy Master Server List Request
allow tcp port 28900

DMZ = DUMB (Something Ace would suggest)
Stress and Merlin, you postcount++ slackers.. PORTS #'s (He's a No0b)!

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:00 am
by CDN_Merlin
Bubba, eat my post count you turd

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:48 am
by Krom
This is an example of the port forwarding screen:

The first line is port 80, or HTTP, it directs all incoming requests on port 80 to the computer on the LAN with the IP address of 192.168.1.200. You can also forward a port range, like 18000-18500 like in the example.

Note that for port forwarding to work at its best you have to set all the computers you want to use port forwarding to fixed IPs on the LAN.

Image

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:20 am
by AceCombat
BUBBALOU wrote:DMZ = DUMB (Something Ace would suggest)

like hell i would suggest a DMZ! Bubba you know me better than that, comon now

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:55 am
by Testiculese
Really? I assumed you would too..I guess that Masters Degree was good for something, now, wasn't it? ;)

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:14 pm
by STRESSTEST
If I remember right ace, you actually posted something here about you using your DMZ before we switched BB software.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:43 pm
by TigerRaptor
Ok that picture that Krom just posted where exactly do I got to open it.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:47 pm
by CDN_Merlin
Type 192.168.1.1 in your browser, default un/pw is Admin in the password field and no username.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:14 pm
by AceCombat
STRESSTEST wrote:If I remember right ace, you actually posted something here about you using your DMZ before we switched BB software.

huh? i would never use a DMZ. not even with a handful of firewalls on it

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:22 pm
by IceFire
I didn't say it was a good idea, however, it would do what he wanted to do since it seemed like he was not able to get the port forwarding to work. It wasn't terribly clear from the post if he had tried to forward ports or not. I assumed he had.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:31 pm
by TigerRaptor
I'm still new to this router thing but every thing looks like work ok. Kazaa lite K++ is still giving me trouble but I'll worry about that anther day. Thanks for the help.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:00 pm
by WarAdvocat
Nothing wrong with a little DMZ that blackice can't fix.

or even ZoneAlarm.

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:46 am
by BUBBALOU
WarAdvocat wrote:Nothing wrong with a little DMZ that blackice can't fix.

or even ZoneAlarm.
Go play with a hurricane and break out your quote book.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:24 pm
by AceCombat
^
|

Word!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:39 pm
by Jeff250
With Kazaa, you need to forward the port you specified in the Kazaa options (some versions of Kazaa Lite will randomize this so it's best to check it or change), and then use a program called "KaNat". It also comes with all the new K-Lite's, so you might already have it.

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:05 am
by WarAdvocat
or even the new, improved, super l337 Windows ICF!

On another topic, linky for K-Lite? Been a while since I used it...and my bookmarked link has apparently become malware central.

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:41 am
by Sligar
For the anime hookup, I'd recommend the following:

bittorrent client:
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

On your linksys router you'll need to forward ports 6881-6882 for azureus to work well, otherwise your downloads will go slow. Downloads may not be as fast as a really fast server, but they are resumable, and azureus keeps track of all your active torrents.

Tons of anime torrents are indexed here:
http://www.animesuki.com/
http://www.baka-updates.com/index.php?page=newreleases
http://www.downloadanime.org/

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:39 am
by DCrazy
Just a quick fix to what Sligar said: in the last couple of weeks or so, BitTorrent's port range has been extended to 6881 through 6999. You'll want to forward all those ports (TCP) to your machine.

Azureus is a great BitTorrent client. I second the recommendation. A great place for torrents (legal and illegal, so watch out ;)) is http://www.suprnova.org.

WarAdvocat: Believe it or not, K-Lite has been declared a work of copyright violation by the court system. Ironic, huh? :P

Jeff: Never knew about this KaNAT program. No wonder all my downloads sucked. Thx.

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:13 pm
by WarAdvocat
Yeah, DCrazy, I caught that. Ironic indeed.

A few quick notes on BitTorrenting:

Any port/port range will work, as your BT client will advertise your incoming ports. Preferably choose ports that are not being used by something else. I generally choose 20 ports in the 64,000 range.

It's better NOT to use the default ports, as many ISP's throttle those ports, and many trackers "blacklist" those ports (ie: you can't access the tracked torrents if your client is set on the default ports).

Having 20 open ports is totally unnecessary, as the rule of thumb for the security concious is to have one port per instance of BitTorrent. Thus if you're going to do 3 different torrents, you only need 3 open ports.

Be sure to open those ports in your firewall, of course, or you'll find that your download speeds are limited.

I'm using the BitTornado client @ home at the moment, for simplicity's sake, but I'm experimenting with the Azureus client here at the office at the moment (particularly the scheduling feature). I plan to seed from the office during the evening hours, and just leech from home ;)

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:17 pm
by Krom
I actually like burst! a lot, it uses far less memory then bittornado. I havnt decided if I am going to check Azureus yet.

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:59 am
by WarAdvocat
Haven't tried the burst client, but I don't run torrents while doing anything else so perhaps it's not as much of an issue for me at home as it might be for others.

I'm using the Azures client here @ the office because of the speed scheduling feature, and that's working well, except that I really need a more robust machine here, as Azures seems to be hogging itself some resources.