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Well, the NHL will lock out its players on Thursday, beginning what will likely be a long and pointless lockout. I'm pissed because I'm a big hockey fan and watching hockey is something I like to do in the winter. I'm also pissed because both sides are so f***ing rich and they dont seem to care about the fans. So what do you guys think?

Avder wrote:I'm also pissed because both sides are so f***ing rich and they dont seem to care about the fans.

What are these "fans" of which you speak?

What's the NHL?

Hot Pockets > Hockey

GIMME MY FRIGGIN HOCKEY AYE!

Seriously.... Gimme my friggin hockey PLEASE!!!

llClutchll wrote:GIMME MY FRIGGIN HOCKEY AYE!

Seriously.... Gimme my friggin hockey PLEASE!!!

Amen!

Why?
Link?
NHL=National Hockey League, if that wasn't sarcasm

:-\ that's interesting.

bah... hockey is fun, but they seriously need a sensible labor agreement. Salary cap, anyone?

If anyone breaks in this lockout it needs to be the players. I'm sick of hearing about how JohnnyHoldout who scored 15 goals last year wants another two million.

Hockey, as much as I love it, has slowly been slipping over the years. Nobody watches hockey anymore. Shorten the season, add a salary cap...get people interested in the game.

The hockey gods are angry. An ice hockey team from sunny Florida won the championship. Therefore, the balance must be restored.

hockey?? what's hockey?????




checkers anyone?

My position on this is simple: the players demanded too much and it's come to bite them in the ass.

What would happen if the players got their way? simple. Ticket prices would go up, and therefore less fans to fill the seats. so the revenue drops. Where are they going to get the money to cover the costs? yup, ticket prices. so the ticket prices go up again and even LESS fans to fill the seats. Who's left filling the seats? The rich. All the while the players are thinking "What's going on? didn't we have more fans than this?"

Yea you did, but you drove them away by demanding too much.


Salary cap was put forth by the GM's, but the players didn't want to discuss it. The NHLPA do not want any sort of salary cap.

They didn't learn anything from the Baseball Lockout of a few years ago.

When people making 2+ mil a year want more money i just want to hit them with a brick.

This is why I refuse to go to almost all major sporting events.

First of all, the baseball strike happend 10 years ago. The thing that happend a few years ago resulted in a new labor agreement and the season continued because both the owners and the players knew another strike would kill the MLB.

As far as hockey is concerned, they need to take a huge look at that and learn from it because at this point in time in the NHLs history where they've slowly but surely risen in popularity a strike would be a very costly mistake.

Personally, I could care less about hockey but I have a lot of friends and family who do enjoy it when it comes around. I'm sure their views about the sport would be drastically changed after a strike. Strikes never have a happy ending and both the players and owners need to get their heads out of their asses and see that in any professional sport when a labor disagreement comes up so they get it taken care of before it even becomes a problem.

I'm tired of watching both sides just sit and rotate on their thumbs waiting until the very last minute hoping one side or the other will crack before they do and bend to whoevers terms without ever once thinking about how it might affect the fans. If a dispute is on the horizon, which most are noticeable several years in advance, take care of the damn thing before it even grows to strike magnitude.

In all honesty no professional athlete or organization has the right to deny the fans of said sport. We pay their salaries and we can also take those salaries away. There is absolutely nothing for them to strike over.

They've been talking about this "impending" strike for at least a whole year, now. Guys were getting contracts front-loaded just so they'd have some extra money during the strike.

What a bunch of bums. Come up with a way to make your sport profitable for the owners AND let the players get paid, and get back in the arena and play.

Tyr: how do the owners have their heads up their collective arses when they've stated thirty franchises are hemmoraging money?

Because they're just as guilty as the players for not taking the initiative and working something out that gels for both parties.

They want it all their way just as much as the players do and neither side ever wants to meet in the middle. The end result is that the fans end up getting screwed because of it. The owners always break down eventually due to fan complaint and the players always get what they want for play to finally resume.

So really only one side ever wins and the players count on that. Good business is done by balancing what the fans want and what the players want if you're the owners. They never seem to do a very good job of that because these disputes always come up every so many years.

The NHL needs to take advantage of US Labor laws and declare an impasse and force some new labor rules upon the union.

One thing that bugs me about all this is why don't the players want to discuss the salary cap?

Do you really need to ask that question? They won't warm up to the idea of a salary cap until they're making the same kind of money on average that the big three sports athletes are making.

The MLB has some of the most ridiculously high salaries being paid out to players and STILL don't have a salary cap. In 2002 when they almost had another strike they came up with their collective bargaining agreement which is supposed to help the smaller market teams have the cash to buy better talent. The effects of that have started to show and it seems to be working, but something of that nature shouldn't have been needed in the first place.

and look at the ticket prices.

baseball tickets are also the cheapest tickets of all the 3 sports.

does the MLB have a lottery or some other kind of funding?