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The temperature at which the brain begins to die...

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:29 pm
by Top Gun
Celsius 41.11

About freakin' time someone fought back :D

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:25 pm
by Herculosis
I'm hoping we'll get to see this one too: Here
"Michael Moore Hates America" deconstructs the genre of documentary film to show viewers how filmmakers can manipulate interviews and statistics to communicate a desired message, and therefore, how deceptive that message often is. Movie-goers will discover what that means in their daily lives and begin to understand why it's so important to question everything they see and hear. Most importantly, viewers will see the American Dream emerge in front of them.
What makes me think that those around here that thought everyone should see Moore's hit piece, even though they admitted it wasn't 'totally' factual, would automatically discount this one?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:23 pm
by Spidey
Hehâ?¦. Michael Moore is a big fat idiotâ?¦


And Al Franken is the anti-Christ!

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:21 pm
by Birdseye
haha that was an even worse chop job than moore's film (after watching the trailer)

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:43 am
by Ferno
If he really hated america, he wouldn't drive a car, fly on a plane, use a computer, or use any other american items.

stating someone hates america because of a differing opinion is flawed logic

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:00 am
by TheCops
no ferno.
youre either with us or against us... isn't that what my fearless leader said?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:23 am
by Will Robinson
Ferno wrote:If he really hated america, he wouldn't drive a car, fly on a plane,....
If that were true the world trade center wouldn't be a pile of wreckage today.

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:57 am
by Ferno
I'm not bitin. nice try though.

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:49 pm
by Will Robinson
I don't disagree with your point that people with opposing opinions don't *necessarily* hate america but people who hate america *do* fly on planes so your logic is no less flawed.

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:33 pm
by Ford Prefect
I think Ferno refers to the "America love it or leave it" philosophy which discounts the possiblity that you can be a citizen and still believe that your countries administration is wrong and that "your" country needs to change direction.
All this harks back to John Stuart Mill's concept of the "Tyranny of the Majority".

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:56 pm
by Beowulf
Bah just let it die already.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:22 am
by Ferno
What if a whacked-out muslim used a helicopter to kill a bunch of french guys? Does that mean they hate France?

note: the first helicopter (albiet unsuccessful) was invented by Paul Cornu, a frenchman.


Ford, correct. It is not only a right, but a duty to question the government. it's part of a system of checks and balances that keeps them as honest as possible given the current circumstances.