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Stickyness .... help!
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:13 pm
by Duper
you know the problem ..
Door frames and signs being sticky. Is there a fix for this? or should they just be avoided?
The signs I could fabricate and use their face textures
the doors are another matter.
any ideas?
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:34 pm
by Liquid Fire
"Sticky"
Please explain.
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:43 pm
by Duper
Your ship sticks to them when collided with.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:46 am
by Duper
ok.. here's the thing. I figured it out so everyone listen up.
The problem with stick doors and sticky objects such as wall signs and the like is that they use portals. Remember that signs are objects separate from the level and need a way to interface with the environment. I presumed that this was done with a sort of portal surrounding the object. To solve this I:
Went to Object mode and selected the offending object in "Current Room" view.
Went to world view and clicked on ROOM menu on the tool bar and went ALL the way to the bottom and clicked "Merge object into Room". This make the object part of the mine and not a separate enitiy.
With doors, you're hanging up on the portal and not the actual door frame. I have yet to find a fix for this. You can not combine any rooms with doors.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:03 pm
by Otherone
Portals have nothing to do with it (objects do not have portals). The stickiness is caused by the object faces themselves. Doors have portals because they are a combination of an object (the door) and a room (the "frame").
Merging works because the faces that made up the object become normal room faces and thus are no longer affected by the object stickiness problem. Even if you could do this with the door object you wouldn't want to because it would no longer animate.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:21 pm
by DCrazy
Woah... where the hell have you been hiding, OO?!
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:39 pm
by Duper
Otherone wrote:Doors have portals because they are a combination of an object (the door) and a room (the "frame").
Thanks, I've known this for wuite a while. Learned the hard way when I had to move a door once after placing it.
Otherone wrote:
Merging works because the faces that made up the object become normal room faces and thus are no longer affected by the object stickiness problem. Even if you could do this with the door object you wouldn't want to because it would no longer animate.
Yea, kinda figured this too. So.. no way to fix it huh?
btw.. WB!
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:37 pm
by Otherone
There may be some doors who's frames will keep you away from the object so you don't get stuck on it (not sure, I haven't experimented with them enough). If not you would have to build a custom door. The idea would be to make the open door recessed far enough into the frame that you don't come into contact with it when you slide along the walls.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:46 pm
by Duper
AAhhh.. Big DUH there. Thanks Otherone.
/me bows to the master.
The ironic part of this is that I built a level with nothing but doors ....all of them ... with the express purpose of observing how they behave. ...and I didn't notice this. *sigh* .. ah well.