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Republicans working to steal election (again)

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:35 pm
by Tetrad
Yea, yea, flamebait title.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp ... v=168XRvNe
(Oct. 13) -- Federal, state, and local officials are gathering information about allegations of voter registration fraud that were first raised Channel 8 Eyewitness News.

An employee of a private voter registration firm alleges that his bosses trashed registration forms filled out by Democratic voters because they only wanted to sign up Republican voters.

The allegations have set off a political firestorm stretching from Las Vegas to Washington D.C., and beyond.

As with everything else in this election year, it's now become a political football being tossed between the two parties, with charges and countercharges, but at its core, there still remains the matter of registration forms that were ripped up and tossed in the trash.

Who did it, and why? That's what official agencies will try to determine. On Tuesday afternoon, Las Vegan Eric Russell and his girlfriend took a packet of documents to the Las Vegas FBI office but left before filing a formal complaint about what Russell says was a deliberate effort to disenfranchise local voters.

Russell worked for a company called Voters Outreach of America, along with 300 other people. He says he got into a beef with the company over a pay dispute, and witnessed his bosses ripping up registration forms that had been filed by democrats.

"They were thrown away in the trash. I grabbed them out," said Eric Russell. One of those forms belonged to Daren Gray, who was shocked to learn that the re-registration form he filled out was never turned in.

"I'm pretty mad, upset. I'm still gonna vote," said Daren Gray. Russell doesn't know how many democratic registrations were tossed in the trash but guesses the number could be very high since Voters Outreach of America operated in Las Vegas for more than two months.

The FBI confirms that it is gathering information about the case but stopped short of calling it an investigation, saying it wants to talk to Russell again. Secretary of State Dean Heller issued a statement that his office is also taking a look, trying to figure out what if any laws might have been violated.

Nevada Democrats came out swinging Wednesday. "Most disturbing is that Voter Outreach of America is being paid by the National Republican Party and we ask how can people have faith in government if a national party is involved in trickery in depriving people the right to vote," said Clark County Commissioner Yvonne Atkinson Gates.

The Republican National Committee acknowledges that it hired Voters Outreach of America to register voters, but in a statement said it had zero tolerance for any kind of fraud.

Local party officials said there is no way the GOP would instruct the company to trash democratic registrations. However, similar problems have been alleged elsewhere. In Washoe County, the registrar says he too has turned over information to the FBI about Republican backed registration efforts.

In Oregon, the same company that was operating here has been criticized for its tactics in signing up voters. There, it used the name America Votes, which is actually the name of a Democratic organization.

Employees in Las Vegas say they too were told that the name of the company was America Votes. "They confused us with the name. They told us one thing and told the temp force something else. They told us America Votes," Russell said.

So, why has this company used the name of a Democratic organization as it signs up voters here and in Oregon? It's a question Eyewitness News is investigating.

In the meantime, Eric Russell is about to learn what it's like to stir the pot. He has already been attacked in other media accounts as a disgruntled employee who was fired and displayed a violent temper.

Russell was a disgruntled employee. He admits that if he had been paid, he probably wouldn't have talked. Even so, discrediting him doesn't explain the existence of the trashed registration forms.
Oh well, they probably wouldn't have voted anyway.

More info:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/13/32821/029
http://communique.portland.or.us/04/10/ ... fraud.html
http://www2.kval.com/x30530.xml?ParentP ... pID=x30530
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=40891
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... DT0129.DTL

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:14 pm
by Ympakt
Yep. It's easier to get your man in office and deal with the improprieties later than worry about being honest.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:50 pm
by Will Robinson
No flames, just equal time.
Do a search of ACORN and voter registration fraud and see how many states the democrats have done, and are doing, this in... then search all you want for how many examples of republican orginazations doing it ...then ask yourself why do the big three networks who report on voter registration fraud seem to only report on the republican examples when the democrat examples of registration fraud outnumber them by a very large margin. Then get back to me on the title of this thread.

Here's an excerpt for the lazy types who won't take the time to compare:

....He reports that ACORN threw out Republican registrations while paying for Democratic ones. Stuart also charges that ACORN targeted ex-cons and that he personally set up registration tables outside the Miami police department and Dade County jail. He went on to state, "The voter registration project has been operating illegally since it started."

ACORN has paid workers for every voter registration card collected -- a felony in Florida and also illegal in Missouri and Pennsylvania. ACORN also routinely accepted signatures for Amendment 5 from individuals who were not currently registered to vote -- a requirement under Florida law.


linkage

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:11 pm
by woodchip
Not so quick Tet:

Democrats got caught with their election playbook open Thursday when a leaked page was published urging operatives to lodge a "pre-emptive strike" of claiming voter intimidation, whether it's true or not.

http://tinyurl.com/53t6n

Sound like 4 years ago?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:15 pm
by Nightshade
Ex-cons tend to vote democrat. Nice company you have there Tetrad.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:42 pm
by The Dingman
Jeesh, what a stupid thing to say.
Republicans tend to be scumbags, nice company you keep.
See the relevance?
ThunderBunny wrote:Ex-cons tend to vote democrat. Nice company you have there Tetrad.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:47 pm
by DCrazy
Being an ex-con is a fact. Being a scumbag is a subjective opinion.

Neither statement really matters.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:47 pm
by Tetrad
ThunderBunny wrote: Nice company you have there Tetrad.
See that's funny because I vote libertarian.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:15 am
by Will Robinson
My favorite fun fact about election fraud is a trend that has been consistent for decades:
Dead people tend to vote democrat almost exclusively!

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:21 am
by woodchip
Will Robinson wrote: Dead people tend to vote democrat almost exclusively!
Hmmm...does this say something about Democrats in general?

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:34 am
by Birdseye
THEY ARE EVIL "Leftists"

!!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:43 pm
by woodchip
Birdseye wrote:THEY ARE EVIL "Leftists"

!!!!
So could we make a movie of election day and call it "The night of the living dead"?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:57 am
by Lothar
yep, it's all the Republicans working to steal the election... evil vile nasty evil dispicable evil eeval repoblikkkanz!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/10/18/mary. ... index.html

Wheeeee...

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:17 am
by kufyit
Just curious, is this article talking about stealing the election? Or is it talking about a crackhead who was paid in crack by someone who was obviously a crack dealer?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:54 am
by woodchip
Kuffy, it's called " Dope for Votes".

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:25 am
by Tetrad
More like "dope for work". Some crackhead filling out more forms so he'd get paid more. These forms wouldn't lead to extra people voting, or people not being able to vote who normally would have, so therefore not the same at all.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:48 am
by Birdseye
Yeah, fake registrations shouldn't get through the system. However if you tear up someone's registration, they may not be able to vote.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:20 pm
by Gooberman
Semi-off topic:

I got my sample ballot today, Ralph Nader didn't even make the cut in Arizona. :(

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:50 am
by woodchip
Gooberman wrote:Semi-off topic:

I got my sample ballot today, Ralph Nader didn't even make the cut in Arizona. :(
Yeah, thank the democrats for that. You have a write-in space?