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205mph Motorcycle ticket = BS

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:55 am
by llClutchll
For anyone who thought the cop was right:
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5041608.html

"Tilley told the Quick Throttle that tests conducted recently at Hitman Motor Sports in White Bear Lake revealed his bike's top speed to be 159 mph. "You strap the bike down and power it up," Andrews said. "You check horse power, power curve and max speed on it. It doesn't lie.""

I don't think he's going to have any trouble fighting this one in court.

:)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:52 am
by woodchip
Dyno machines never lie!

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:54 am
by CDN_Merlin
well, 205 MPH would be insane on any regular road on a bike. Even in the WSB races, 205 MPH is nuts.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:19 am
by Tricord
I have a vid from a turbocharged bike slamming into the 220MPH limit of the speedometer after which the tachometer still rose, he must have been doing 250MPH.

Very impressive, very crazy also.

[Edit]: It's not that large, so I uploaded it here (2.9MB )
I have another vid from the same bike with some random driving, however with a boost gauge installed. Absolutely mad. But it's 22MB, I'm not upping that one.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:16 am
by Top Wop
I wish I could drive to school like that.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:24 am
by llClutchll
Looks too slow for 250, and if the gauge is correct, he pulled a wheelie from 0 - 160. Wrong gear on the spedo cable? :)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:11 am
by Tricord
I don't know Clutch... The other video shows more than you can see on this one, there's also passing traffic. You can see him slam the boost under full load at 18lbs+ and you hear the wastegate whizz when he changes gears. I think it's genuine. Given the power he's putting out under boost, he'd fry his engine if his gears were too short.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:16 am
by llClutchll
Granted it's a fast bike, but it looks like he changed the sprocket out and didn't correct the spedometer cable gear. I find it very hard to believe that it's 220 - 250 the way the scenery is passing by (including the centerline hash marks). Not to mention how stable he is at the top end. At 220 if you farted on the bike, you wind up in the next lane :)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:27 am
by Buef
I agree.

At 150 the hash marks on the road should blur together, not be distinguishable as they are above that.

Also, when he is decelerating, look at the opposing traffic. If he is going 100 and they are going 55 they would pass much quicker than that.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:42 pm
by Mobius
LOL @ Tricord.

I used to ride my GSXR-1100RJ at an *indicated* speed of 265 km/h on the straights between Christchurch and Queenstown. (Yeah - it's safe, these are the emptiest and arguably best roads anywhere, excepting autobahns)

Lemme tell yah - that movie - LMFAO - what a lamer. He's not even going 220 km/h let alone 220 mph. At 265 km/h the white lines are one solid white line, and lamp posts go by so often it's quite scary.

Perhaps you non-motorcyclists have never heard of centripetal forces? Or Gyroscopic stability? Because 2 x 20 KG wheels rotating at 220 mph are so stable it's actually impossible to turn the front wheel at all. For you non-bikers, to turn left, you lean left and push the left handle bar away from you. It's not like riding a bicycle.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:32 pm
by llClutchll
Yeah, I'm sure Indian Larry was relying on that "stable" centripetal force on his last ride.

So at 150+ mph your saying that the bike is so stable that you can let go of the handlebars and lean all over the place on regular highways and still maintain a straight line?

I know in my car when I push 120+ I have a white knuckle grip on the wheel and have to fight the natural forces created by the Oakland County Road Commission.

:)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:38 pm
by snoopy
Yeah, I'm not sure what you guys think about all the dyno tests, but they're actually fairly accurate- and conservative. On a dyno, there isn't any aerodynamic drag, and at 150 most of what is slowing you down is aerodynamic drag.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:28 pm
by MD-2389
I remember a show on the Discovery channel showing a dude trying to break the land speed record on a motorcycle out in the salt flats. First time around he went past 200MPH, but the bike started wobbling and he eventually lost it. He tried to bail out, but his pants got stuck on the pedal and he got drug for a good while. I think he only got a sprained ankle. Second time around, he got to about 220MPH before it wobbled again, but he wiped out big time. Broke his leg, a couple of ribs and bruised the ★■◆● out of him. The bike was totally destroyed.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:08 pm
by llClutchll
^ Must have been that Centripetal force :)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:32 pm
by MD-2389
llClutchll wrote:^ Must have been that Centripetal force :)
Yeah, his wheels must've not been perfectly straight, so that would definitely account for the wobbling at those speeds. The video of the second trial was really freaky too. I was really suprised he survived it at all. The bike literally went everywhere when he lost control.