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Linear Algebra
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 11:45 pm
by snoopy
Has anyone else taken it? (I guess besides Lothar and Drak, I already know that you guys have to have taken it) It's giving me trouble these days. the whole vector space stuff kinda poses the question "why?" for me. I mean, that's nice, you define a vector space, and then you see if something fits within that space according to a certain set of criterian. I don't get what you're really proving. Anyways, it kinda baffles me, and I'm not looking forward to the next test. It's all just too abstract for my liking. Anyone else agree? Anyone care to enlighten me as to the potential value of it all in real life applications? Just for the heck of it, I'll make this into a poll.
Edit: Guess my "What's Linear Algebra" option didn't make it in- oops.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:14 am
by Duper
most of your higher maths are used a lot in your science disciplins. Physics, Chemistry.. Trig was a mystery until I used it in physics.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:14 am
by fliptw
Computer Graphics.
and some resource allocation problems.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:46 am
by Asrale
Lin Alg was the last math class I ever took, since CS generally doesn't require Differential Equations.
And it was one of the easiest next to Calc II, what do you find hard about it? After I took it, I understood how 3D graphics on the computer are achieved and it made me respect people like Carmack and Sweeney even more. Which is really cool.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:00 am
by Jeff250
I was thinking about taking it next semester but will probably put it off until next year.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:05 am
by Sligar
I use it at my work to find the coefficients of polynomials for interpolation. We build a table of values from a laser sensor and a table of values in millimeters, and use a 3rd order poly to interpolate between them. It only takes 18 or so table entries with poly interpolation to be as good as 100 linear table entries. Computer graphics stuff is all about some linear algebra too, like rotation and scaling matrices. If you ever do any programming in OpenGL, you use matrices to move objects around in space, to set the 'camera' view, etc etc.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:55 am
by Hahnenkam
Linear algebra . . . took it, dropped it, then decided the biology major was enough (originally trying to minor in computer sci)
Math is not my friend.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:59 am
by Flashnet
Took it, slept EVERY class, studied for the final right before the final, and got a decent A. Other than the more advanced vactor and matrix stuff, it seemed alot like the material they teach in Pre-cal only slightly more advanced
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:00 pm
by Gooberman
heh, the first time I took lin alg. The prof. let us use TI-89s, I ended that class with like 98%. Eigen vectors, values, indentiy matrix, going from one space to another, etc are all just one button away!
Easiest A in college by far.
But then in my mathmatical methods of Physics course, I had to learn how to do it all without a Calculator. Got an A in that class too, but had to work 100x harder for it.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:43 pm
by DCrazy
Gotta love AP physics. Today, while most of the students are still taking AP calc, my teacher, during the course of explaining conservation of angular momentum, jumps into cross products and immediately writes a 3x3 matrix on the board, then takes the determinant to find the components of the cross product, as if everyone in the room understands this. I got as far as knowing that vertical bars around a matrix mean "determinant". Most people were clueless as to what a matrix was.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:55 pm
by ccb056
you guys are just staring matricies and determinants in AP Calc, I did that in Alg II my sophmore year
Jesuit NOLA > Regis
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:20 pm
by DCrazy
So did the advanced calc people, many of whom will be taking multivariable calc this year. I'm in regular math -- which is AP math... advanced track people took AP Calc already -- and we're still doing derivatives (I have learned more math in physics class than I have in calculus).
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:12 pm
by Mobius
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:58 pm
by Jeff250
Anyone know anything about "Advanced Calculus I"? The only prereq it technically has is Calc3, which is the only class I've taken/taking, but I guess the fact it's a senior-level course is scaring me.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:38 pm
by snoopy
lol @ all you fancy high school people. I can understand the value in all the conversion matrix stuff- matricies are fine. What I don't like is the whole vector space stuff.
I took AB AP calc, got a 5, yet there's still alot of stuff that I didn't know in the way of math.
Jeff- do you have a separate diff eq class? If you don't I'm betting you'll be hitting diff eq's. (Or maybe even PDE's) Otherwise, did you see partial derivatives and double/triple integrals?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:11 pm
by Zoop!
Thanks to AP Calculus AB and AP Statistics, I don't have to take a math course again until this summer when I take Business and Economic Statistics II.
/accounting major
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:39 pm
by Jeff250
snoopy wrote:lol @ all you fancy high school people. I can understand the value in all the conversion matrix stuff- matricies are fine. What I don't like is the whole vector space stuff.
I took AB AP calc, got a 5, yet there's still alot of stuff that I didn't know in the way of math.
Jeff- do you have a separate diff eq class? If you don't I'm betting you'll be hitting diff eq's. (Or maybe even PDE's) Otherwise, did you see partial derivatives and double/triple integrals?
Yeah, there's a seperate differential equation class, but it wouldn't surprise me. We also hit triple integrals in Calc3, although there's not going to be any DE's or PDE's. I spoke with my advisor yesterday, and she said there'd be no harm. The only reason I'm considering taking it now is because I need the extra credit hour. Looks like the Math Department website is down, but I think I remember it saying something about rigorous single-variable Calculus and proofs.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:59 pm
by Sirius
I took a paper that included basic linear algebra early this year... wasn't too bad, although the ideas of matrices took getting used to. (And I can no longer remember the determinant rules... ah well, they're simple enough to revise.) Vectors weren't so bad.
It also included some odd second-order differential equations, but I haven't hit PDEs yet and sort of doubt I'm going to...