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Wild Safari Hunting....

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:21 am
by MD-2389

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:44 am
by WarAdvocat
I just watched the beginning of the clip you linked to verify it was the same one I saw.

Interesting thing about hunting lions: They fight back. It's part of the "fun": you can die.

in the clip I saw, however, the lion died.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:05 am
by Will Robinson
WarAdvocat wrote:Interesting thing about hunting lions: They fight back. It's part of the "fun": you can die.
And if the men used sharp blades in each hand instead of guns they would be brave.
If you aren't going to eat it or protect someone/something from it you have no business shooting it.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:37 am
by WarAdvocat
Whatever :) I'm not into hunting, personally, but Lions are apparently thriving and need to be culled, so these hunts are reasonable.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:13 am
by Iceman
Will Robinson wrote:If you aren't going to eat it or protect someone/something from it you have no business shooting it.
Agreed fully and I am a hunter myself.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:13 pm
by KompresZor
Will Robinson wrote: And if the men used sharp blades in each hand instead of guns they would be brave.
lol.. If I posted something about a guy going after a lion with a couple of knives I think most would call him a moron, not brave.
Will Robinson wrote: If you aren't going to eat it or protect someone/something from it you have no business shooting it.
So I guess I have no business ground hog hunting then.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:26 pm
by Perediablo
Prairie dog hunting is fun. So is people hunting...I mean...hehehe. How are you sure that those people were not going to eat that lion. I would. Probably a pretty gamey meat, but if you soak it in milk it might be pretty tasty. Squirrel hunting with a .22 pistol is my favorite.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:32 pm
by Hattrick
heh,
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I'm an avid hunter, but I dont eat any game animal.
I hunt soley for the pleasure I get from stalking my quary in it's own habitat and Bagging it fair and square.
All, of my kills are given to family and friends who do in fact eat the slain critter(blech).

The clip depicted here in fact shows a group of people who are doomed from the start.
any hunter worth his salt knows that you NEVER chase a dangerous predator after you have wounded it.
If you have hit it with a large caliber weapon in the body cavity all you need to do is wait and let the innevitable happen.The IDIOTS are lucky their buddy isnt dead.

now I didnt see a reason as to why the "keystone" hunters were trying to kill this lion, but I will say this.
If it was a rogue lion, it needed to be done.

If these were trophy hunters, they deserve what they got, as I said earlier they were doomed from the start.

Even though I know many hunters who enjoy going to africa to shoot such animals soley for the trophy of a rug or mount, I do not agree with it. especially because the greed of the money paid for the hunt will take precedence over proper wildlife management.

Hunting is a great sport as well as a superior wildlife management tool and as a hunter it pains me too see clips like that and stories of idiots who abuse our hunting rights.

@ Kompy: I believe that falls under varmit control for the farmers. ;)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:35 pm
by Will Robinson
I'm against trophy hunting plain and simple.
If you bag a lion *and* are controlling the population or protecting something then hang him on the wall if it pleases you. I won't complain.
However, if you want to kill *just* to have a trophy then to make it fair I should be able to hunt/kill/stuff your ass and hang your head on my wall as a trophy if I find you trophy hunting in the wild. Make a 'trophy hunters' season and then I'll have some respect for those who still have the balls to go out trophy hunting knowing they might be bagged themselves ;)

Those guys were murdering a lion in a stocked game preserve...totally lame.
And in spite of their overwhelming firepower they still almost managed to shoot each other when the lion got a piece of one of them!
I know because a friend of mine was all hyped up to go there and do the same thing. He sent me a different version of the same hunt on film and wanted me to join in. I passed.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:29 pm
by woodchip
Will you shamed me. I too used to be a trophy hunter.
Now I'll have to take all the pics down off my trophy room wall of the pelts I aquired while hunting women at the local bar. I'm sorry...I should have known it was wrong. Can you ever forgive me? :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:18 pm
by Unix
You took pictures of their pelts? Do they know?

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:17 pm
by Top Gun
I'm not normally against hunting, but in this case, I'm rooting for that lion. I despise "big-game hunters;" they're a bunch of testosterone-soaked blockheads looking for a thrill, usually at the expense of some endangered species. Last time I checked, the wild lion population isn't exactly "thriving;" they deserved what they got. If you want to do something useful, try hunting some white-tailed deer in PA; now there's a thriving population. :P

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:47 am
by Nitrofox125
I think by now it's more like Lions: 416 Morons: 0. I'm anti-hunting. Unless it's human-hunting with a paintball gun. I just don't... kill.

Hattrick it's kind of the same thing. It gives you a certain rush of adrenaline to pursue your prey, but like I said I do that with Airsoft and Paintball. I've never been hunting; it might be different.

And those were some high-powered weapons! Some idiot was shooting all over the place when the lion attacked the guy, I'm suprised somebody didn't get just plain shot.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:31 am
by Inari
Will Robinson wrote: And if the men used sharp blades in each hand instead of guns they would be brave.
If you aren't going to eat it or protect someone/something from it you have no business shooting it.
I fully agree with that. I could never be a hunter, I love animals too much. I also understand what you're saying there Komp, but I just can't see what fun comes out of killing an animal that has no chance whatsoever to do anything about it's inevitable death. If you're gonna kill something to be "brave" or show that you have really great skills, do it with blades. If you're doing it for food or to protect someone, by all means use a gun.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:45 am
by Hattrick
Nitrofox125 wrote: Hattrick it's kind of the same thing. It gives you a certain rush of adrenaline to pursue your prey, but like I said I do that with Airsoft and Paintball. I've never been hunting; it might be different.
I've done paintball, Trust me it's different.

Re: Wild Safari Hunting....

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:46 pm
by STRESSTEST
MD-2389 wrote:http://www.compfused.com/directlink/485/

Lion - 1
Morons - 0
Looks like one of the lions got shot to me. need some help with your score keeping me thinks

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:54 pm
by Unix
maybe he means lions - 1 (death)
morons - 0 (deaths)

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:26 pm
by STRESSTEST
yea, maybe

Re: Wild Safari Hunting....

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:41 pm
by MD-2389
STRESSTEST wrote:
MD-2389 wrote:http://www.compfused.com/directlink/485/

Lion - 1
Morons - 0
Looks like one of the lions got shot to me. need some help with your score keeping me thinks
The lion got a minor fleshwound while one of the "hunters" shot one of the other "hunters", and got smacked around by the lion. Thats not even bringing up their total inepitude when it comes to the operation of a firearm. How hard would it be to actually hit something the size of a lion fatally?! It was moving in a straight line FFS! I'd say that the score is pretty accurate. ;)

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:08 am
by Darkside Heartless
Even I could have had that thing between the eyes, although I did put a scope on a BBgun....