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What are your favorite old weapons?
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:48 pm
by []V[]essenjah
Hey everyone, I have been researching some old weaponry and I am curiouse anything I can get my hands on. Anyway, what are some of your favorites? I am particularly interested in daggers and swords right now. I'm not looking for guns really.
Mine:
Katana
Crossbow
Trebuchet
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:59 pm
by Xamindar
Samurai Swords!!
I'm not really looking at getting one now but I plan on it in the future.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:30 am
by TigerRaptor
Katana of course.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:39 am
by []V[]essenjah
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:35 am
by roid
rocks.
i have a collection of medieval rocks
.
oh, and angry cats are cool. you can rile up a cat and then throw it at your enemy's head. they are like scalpels connected with rubber bands (a later invented weapon i'm sure)
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:51 am
by Inari
Trebuchet owns castles on Age of Empires II, so I like that one. I've also seen a trebuchet in action where someone constructed one recently. Great stuff.
As for swords and stuff like that, I personally like the Japanese Katana, I like shurikens, and I love the Roman Gladius. For brute force, the Scotish Claymore is quite a good one, too. For stabing weapons, I think Halberds are the best.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:33 am
by Avder
Gimmie a good club any day.
OOGA BOOGA!! CAPTAIN CAVE MAN SMASH EM!!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:27 am
by Flatlander
a sharp, pointy stick?
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:48 am
by Darkside Heartless
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:31 am
by WarAdvocat
I'm a big fan of Ancient Japanese Swords, so I will say Katana. Additionally, while not strictly a "weapon" I feel that Japanese feudal-era Samurai armor (
"Yoroi") deserves a mention here for it's unique, striking style, and it is most definately "Weapons Technology".
More elaborate sets can be comprised of hundreds, even thousands of individual steel links bound with colorful silk wrappings.
Another very unique and interesting weapon is the
"Katar", which is like the unholy marriage of a dagger and brass knucks. I first learned of these in an MMORPG game, but I would like to own one now.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:23 am
by Stryker
English Longbow pwnz yall.
These things could fire 200-300 yards with pinpoint accuracy, with enough force to penetrate steel armor. Crossbow? *waves in contempt* Show me the crossbow that could fire like a longbow *AND* fire fast enough to put 2-3 missiles in the air AT THE SAME TIME, and I'll show you something that ain't a crossbow.
Seriously, all your swords and stuff are all well and good, but let's face it--in a duel, which would win? How about in a 100 vs 100 battle? 1,000 vs 1,000? These bows were enough to kill at 400 yards, though they weren't accurate at that range.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:58 am
by Dedman
A pissed off Barbarian.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:27 am
by Will Robinson
Stryker wrote:English Longbow pwnz yall.
Word! A bunch of guys with string and a couple of sticks became the first WMD.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:22 pm
by Lobber
Right now my favorite is The Hwacha. I first learned about it playing Civ3.
The info on them comes from the Koreans, is as follows:
Some of the first anti-personnel devices created in Korea were comprised of small rockets attached to arrows, which flung spikes upon detonation. When it was discovered that several of these rockets could be launched from the same container, larger versions of these anti-personnel devices were created and utilized in battle. These larger anti-personnel devices were designed to be transported on wheeled vehicles such as a two-wheeled carts and wheelbarrows. The Hwach'a, which was invented in 1451, allowed a single man to transport approximately 100 rockets into battle, and was well suited to combat the invading Japanese Samurai who typically advanced on the Koreans in dense groups, presenting ideal targets for the Hwach'a operators.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:17 pm
by Top Gun
I think
this should do nicely.
For those of you not in the know, this is the famous "Dictator," used in the American Civil War during the siege of Petersburg. This thing had a thirteen-inch bore and weighed a stunning 17,000 pounds. It had to be moved by train cart. It could throw a 218 pound shell over two and a half miles. Now that is some serious firepower.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:59 pm
by Lobber
I just remembered what my all time favorite ancient weapon is:
The Quarterstaff
It is an extremely versatile weapon. Equal to any sword , dagger, or any other medieval weapon. A skilled man wielding an eight foot long smooth pole of ash or oak could fend off several attackers more heavily armed than himself. It also makes a great walking stick. Best of all, anyone can obtain one with relative ease, and learn to use it in a few lessons. Mastery, however, takes years.
A Brief History of the Quarterstaff
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:07 am
by Krom
Bow and arrow, Swords, Sticks (ala lobber), Slingshot + Rocks.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:42 am
by Zoop!
The Death Star
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:48 pm
by Beowulf
a social life?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:14 pm
by Stryker
Lobber wrote:I just remembered what my all time favorite ancient weapon is:
The Quarterstaff
It is an extremely versatile weapon. Equal to any sword , dagger, or any other medieval weapon. A skilled man wielding an eight foot long smooth pole of ash or oak could fend off several attackers more heavily armed than himself. It also makes a great walking stick. Best of all, anyone can obtain one with relative ease, and learn to use it in a few lessons. Mastery, however, takes years.
A Brief History of the Quarterstaff
It's interesting to note that longbowmen commonly were trained in the use of the quarterstaff as well. When the string was detached from one end of the bow, the wood naturally sprang back to its original position, I.E. straight. This allowed the bow to be used as a quarterstaff, albeit a somewhat weak one due to the type of wood used. This effectively doubled the longbowman's firepower, allowing him to fight at both extremely long to close range effectively.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:44 pm
by AceCombat
bostaff. i own a Type I, Type II, and a Chinese Bamboo Bo staff
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:49 pm
by Nitrofox125
I looked more into the Hwacha.. that's pretty kickass!
http://xiaoyan83.hihome.com/picture/hwacha.jpg <-Picture of one.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:38 pm
by Mr. Perfect
That thing looks like a primative MLRS.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:27 pm
by roid
AceCombat wrote:bostaff. i own a Type I, Type II, and a Chinese Bamboo Bo staff
what about the type C?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:11 pm
by Beowulf
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/katar3.jpg
girls like a guy with skills...katar skills.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:04 pm
by dissent
Duh!!
A PEN !!
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:38 am
by []V[]essenjah
Now the Katar is an interesting weapon. As I can see it apparently splits up into 3 different blades but what is the triggering mechanism? I would imagine it could be used well for defense against swords (say if they strike you with a sword, you could block it by catching it between the three blades. Or it could be used to tear someone up from the inside depending on if it has force behind it's blades opening up. Who built and used these weapons? I'm going to look into this.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:58 am
by WarAdvocat
Katars don't necessarily split into several blades...although that picture looks pretty awesome. Those are just gimmick weapons probably made for nobles.
Very cool find tho, awesome Beo!
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:51 am
by snoopy
I like quarter staves, too.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:39 am
by Buef
Bolos!
Many styles:
Kris (most ppl's fav)
Balasiong
Gunong
Kalis
Pira
Utak
Panabas
Punal
Barong
Laring
Janap
Banjal
Susuwat
Gayang
Bangkong
Kambang
Lahot
Kampilan (my fav)
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:21 pm
by Perediablo
My hands.
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:08 am
by []V[]essenjah
Perediablo wrote:My hands.
Wow, you're that old?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:42 pm
by Perediablo
mob-messenger wrote:Perediablo wrote:My hands.
Wow, you're that old?
I feel like it today!
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:27 pm
by Stryker
DOH! mods, please delete, hit the wrong topic
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:18 pm
by Trauma
1911A1
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:52 pm
by Fusion pimp
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:28 pm
by AceCombat
ill take a Beretta 92M, over that POFS colt 1911 anyday
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:38 pm
by Trauma
oK
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:39 pm
by Trauma
oK
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:32 pm
by Fusion pimp
Ace,
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Ballistically the 9mmP is just about the worst caliber choice next to the .32ACP for self defense.
Then to try to compare it to a .45ACP?
Caliber choice aside:
Baretta's are poorly balanced, bulky ,inherently inaccurate and have feeding/ejection problems in stock form.
In the hands of an experienced combat shooter a 1911 cannot be beat, period. The 1911 was the milatary weapon of choice from WW-2 until the mid-90's when Baretta beat out Colt by greasing government palms.
Even if Colt contracted with the government to build weak 9mm pistols, I'd take the Colt over *any* other personal sidearm.
I suggest you do some research before you call a 1911 a "POFS" and attempt compare the 92 and ballistics of a .45/9mmP.
Maybe that's why you don't see Baretta's dominating ISPCA comps, it's always Colt's, Springs, AO, Kimbers, et cetera.
Silly rabbit.
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