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Dominant file-sharing programs

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:09 pm
by Birdseye
Not a thread for discussing w4r3z, just curious as to what everyone is using these days. I use eMule. Does anyone still use Kazaa (or Kazaa Lite)? I'm guessing WinMX is pretty dead. For MAC OSX, is hotline the only solution?

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:12 pm
by Unix
Soulseek hands down.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:46 pm
by Top Wop
I still use Kazaa Lite for the lighter downloads. Else I turn to Bit-Torrent. I used to use programs like Emule or Edonkey until Bit Torrent convinced me that it is better, you can aquire downloads faster that way.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:40 pm
by Tyranny
Top Wop wrote:I still use Kazaa Lite for the lighter downloads. Else I turn to Bit-Torrent. I used to use programs like Emule or Edonkey until Bit Torrent convinced me that it is better, you can aquire downloads faster that way.
If you have decent upload speeds. Otherwise its kinda difficult. I get 4mb down so sometimes its a better option to just straight download it as long as the other person has broadband too then it is to use bittorrent sometimes.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:50 pm
by Avder
If my campus didnt neuter it, I would be using bit torrent all the way. But for now, most of my downloading is off of winmx.

I havnt used kazzaa in over a year.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:28 pm
by suicide eddie
tried azureus for a while but it has a tendency to gobble memory and crash the pc fairly regularly for me and others, played with bit-tornado for a while but the most stable and fastest for me is bitcomet.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:08 pm
by Krom
Direct Connect and bittorrent here. Bittorrent (latest tornado client) for anything newly released, DC++ for anything old. Sometimes I download off IRC if a XDCC bot has what I want.

Bittorrent is often better for anything big, probably has something to do with bittorrent using up more then one third of the total internet's bandwidth (more then all the other P2P programs combined). BT has a lot of overhead, but it also has a very useful level of error checking, if you downloaded a file off anything else and it was corrupted, finding a bittorrent with that exact file you can resume the bittorrent over that file and repair it with only a small download.

The one serious problem with bittornado and other clients like it is they are extremely sensetive to bad memory, if your PC has less then perfect RAM in it, get used to the idea BT is going to crash with "download corrputed, please resume" often. And bittornado also comsumes about 30-40 MB of RAM per torrent running, and can slow a computer to a crawl in a supprisngly short time.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:23 pm
by Matrix
I use BT / IRC / FTP

I used to use DC++ but all I download now is unlicensed anime so BT has that covered

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:17 pm
by MD-2389
Bitorrent and FTP here. Haven't used kazaa lite or winmx in years. I still have the old installers (before the klite sites got shot down) handy just in-case I need to though.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:21 pm
by Birdseye
Krom: With bittorrent do you ever get empty/fake files?

I remember a long time ago I would download on some file sharing programs and it seemed like people could do stuff like take an mp3 of John Celebrity Doe and rename it so that you would get a copy of a different mp3.

Does bittorent (or any other program now, like emule) know the difference? I.e. is there some "registry" of names of files? Could someone post a fake .exe of a product? I always wondered why software companies didn't do stuff like this.

I know at least they would have to match the right file size now, but who knows down to what bit precision.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:28 pm
by DCrazy
BitTorrent, unlike KaZaA et al, is blind to file data. It just shares files and folders, whereas other p2p programs check ID3 information, etc. The advantage of BitTorrent, though, is that in order to find a torrent you pretty much have to go to a "respected" site, and they list the number of users seeding and downloading. If the numbers are high, chances are good that it's a real copy of the file.

As far as music goes BitTorrent is pretty much used for distributing whole albums, because it's worthless to share individual songs.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:33 pm
by Krom
Birds: With BT that would be very hard and inneffective to do just by the nature of how the program and trackers work, I have never downloaded a fake file off of BT. Something to keep in mind is that the vast majority of bittorrent trackers are moderated, so posting a fake file would get whoever submitted it banned.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:11 pm
by Vertigo 99
slsk

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:20 pm
by Avder
Anyone here happen to do anything with exeem lite? I wont touch the "official" exeem because its loaded with spoyeare, but is there anything useful about it? Or is it just another kazzaa as I predicted?

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:09 pm
by roid
surely you can use a torrent client on a mac. lots of torrent programs are on soundforge, and therefore have binarys for MAC, linux, windows.

G3torrent for example
(oh... scratch that, it doesn't. well at least i'm sure many OTHER progs on soundforge come in MAC flavour)

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:38 pm
by Krom
There is also that java torrent client that will run on anything that has a java virtual machine.

Re: Dominant file-sharing programs

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:28 am
by *Javed*
Birdseye wrote:For MAC OSX, is hotline the only solution?
I'm using Limewire Pro. (Didn't actually pay for the pro version, found it off some European website for free :) )Works awsome.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:20 am
by Vertigo 99
slsk can be used on the mac, from what i understand, albeit with difficulty

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:25 am
by DCrazy
Krom wrote:There is also that java torrent client that will run on anything that has a java virtual machine.
I assume you're referring to Azureus?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:53 am
by BAAL
I also use Azureus here...great program.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:42 am
by Bad@sskow
You asked what is the "dominant" ... so what one gets used the most?

I'd say Kazaa still has the upper hand, however Gnutella and some of the lesser known ones are really upping in numbers because of the recent lawsuits against certain software users, Kazaa notably.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:03 pm
by BfDiDDy
BAAL wrote:I also use Azureus here...great program.
x2

Recent Movie Releases, Full Albums, Band discography's, Programs, and dirty movies. Anything you want realy. On one site I've downloaded 399.60 GB, and uploaded 599.70 GB in the last couple months. Share ratio is 1.501. My line is clogged 95% of the time but I have a huge server to store everything in.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:07 pm
by TheCops
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:46 pm
by Battlebot
Shareaza is really good too....

it hacks into the networks of gneutella, gnuetella 2, morpheus, limewire, emule, edonkey, etc. to use their users' files and uploads

kind of ironic really

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:51 pm
by Viralphrame
I use bittorrent for all my filesharing these days (mostly anime). I use the BitTornado 0.3.9 client.