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Descent for PS2
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:25 pm
by El Ka Bong
Hi Y'all !
I've just finished moving to a new community ( White Rock
http://www.whiterockonline.com/photos.htm ) near Vancouver, but have not yet set up my PC to get back online with some real D3 action.
So I went out and bought a Playstation 2 console, to 'console' my gaming heart ( and my kids') until I get back on broadband Internet.
And so I was wondering if anyone has a copy of the version of D2 that came out for PS1 ..? Or how do I find old Playstation games these days ? The only PS2 games we have so far are a car racing game (NFS) and a Ratchet and Crank game. I figured it would be worth trying the old D2 game as well... Any comments on this old PS1 game ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:48 pm
by Top Gun
I have copies of both Descent games for PS1; I was lucky enough to find them in bargain bins at gaming stores. As you can imagine, it's much harder to fly with a PS1 controller than a stick (although if you have a PS1 stick, you can use that instead). The framerate's pretty crappy, especially in the second game. However, the radiosity lighting effects make the game look a lot better than the original, and the music for the D1 port is pretty cool.
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:37 am
by El Ka Bong
... My collection of all-things-Descent should not be without a copy of the PS1 version of D2.. !...
Who wants to sell me a copy ? .. Top Gun, do you have spares ? .. !
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:00 am
by Hattrick
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:15 pm
by Jesus Freak
Gotta love ebay!
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:33 am
by El Ka Bong
Wow! Thanks for the spoon feeding ! Google and E-bay are all we need these days !
.. ok, off I go to bid !.. I'll see if I can get them both for $10 or less ! I can't imagine trichording with a PS2 controller !
Can't wait to get back in the mines, on line.. See you out there in a week or so !
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:17 pm
by Hattrick
good luck man!
see you in the mines!
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:46 pm
by Top Gun
If you do get them, be advised that you can't use the analog controller sticks to move, which does suck. The default config didn't work too well for me (for example, there was no way to slide up/down), so I came up with an alternate that I was able to use pretty well. I had the D-Pad for the X and Y axes, the four buttons for sliding up-down-left-right, L1 and R1 for moving forward/back, and L2 and R2 for firing primaries/secondaries. I used Select + L1/R1 for banking left/right (a slight disadvantage in that you can't do it while moving, but it's the best I could come up with) and Select + L2/R2 for switching between primaries/secondaries. Select + the four buttons took care of such things as laying mines, firing flares, and using the converter or headlights. In D2, double-tapping the forward button triggers your afterburner, so that was already taken care of. It took some getting used to, but I was able to move around fairly well after playing for a while. It wasn't exactly multiplayer-caliber, but it did the job for singleplayer.
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:59 pm
by Kyouryuu
I'm sure it was no trivial task trying to map Descent 2's controls onto the PSX controller in any fashion halfway intuitive.
The second game was called Descent Maximum. Like Top Gun said, the framerate is absolutely craptastic. Although the themes of the levels mirror those in Descent 2 (water, ice, fire, etc), they are all entirely different maps that are much smaller than the labyrinths in Descent 2. I think Dan Wentz did a lot of them, and several are compact, elegant designs.
You can search by zip code for a Gamestop store near you that might have a used copy:
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=933159
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:11 pm
by Thenior
ugh, I hated Descent on PS1, the controls were soo hard
Combat Mode
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:18 pm
by Mickey1
I started playing Descent on the PS1 combat mode. Two PS1s connected through the wall between the TV room and my son's bedroom. Great fun. Really didn't like Descent Max . Could be by then my son was kicking me bad. D3 is my revenge ! Ha, Ha, Ha KaBoom!
Top Gun, I think you can use the joysticks in Descent. I have but I was better as a button masher. I believe not all controllers will work.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:15 am
by Kyouryuu
What were the levels in Combat Mode anyway? I couldn't be bothered to stick two televisions and two PSOnes and two Descent disks together to find out. ;p
Combat Mode Levels?
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:34 am
by Mickey1
Kyouryuu, I can't be bothered to stick two televisions and two PSOnes and two Descent disks together to find out right now. ;p There were a group of three very small levels, Itsy Bitsy ... Then some small levels. You could also play in the singleplayer levels with or without bots. We only could do 1 on 1 so small was ok.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:41 am
by TigerRaptor
The Playstation version of Descent 1 has some of the best music in it. I just converted them into mp3 format not to long ago, and I'd host them if I knew it wasn't illegal.
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:10 pm
by Top Gun
There's another site around with most of them available for download. If anyone wants the link, I'll PM it to them.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:20 pm
by World War Woodi
I would like that link please, I have the music but it's in XA form not mp3. I dont know how to convert them.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:21 pm
by World War Woodi
Or if Tiger Raptor would like to share how he converted them that would rock also.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:45 pm
by MD-2389
Top Gun wrote:There's another site around with most of them available for download. If anyone wants the link, I'll PM it to them.
*cough*
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:00 am
by TigerRaptor
Actually woodi I had to convert them to WAV first then to MP3.
But if you want to do it your self. Download a program called PSound. Once you got it look for these two files on your Descent PS CD Pigbert.xa, and Vanz.xa. Then just go to File and click on convert.
PSmplay is all another good program to use, and can also convert .str to .avi. Now I donâ??t remember where I downloaded from. Just type PSound or PSmplay in the google search and Iâ??m sure youâ??ll find a host. But to save your self the trouble just click on the link MD posted.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:21 pm
by BUBBALOU
I have Descent and Descent Maximum for the Sony Playstation
there was only one controller truly suited and definately supported by both
Sony SCPH-1110 Analog Joystick
Have the link cable too, used to play PS1 Descent coop with my roomate at the time when i got it... since he had no online access or a computer
Unable to connect to remote host
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:54 pm
by Mickey1
Had time to drag out the PSOnes. Found the cables and game disks but one of the PSOnes wont spin the disk. It makes a click starts to spin but then stops." Unable to connect to remote host"; no combat level list. I'll try to find another PSOne. Hearing the opening music made my heart rate go up. Level 8 almost gave me a heart attack.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:03 am
by El Ka Bong
I want that double JS .. ! !
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:59 pm
by AceCombat
El Ka Bong wrote:I want that double JS .. ! !
no shiz!!!
they still sell those Bubble?
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:40 am
by World War Woodi
x2 ! more info please, that rocks !
man I would love to play d1 over again the "right" way{with a controller that can trichord}
Wait a sec, that doesnt have twist does it?
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:44 am
by BUBBALOU
no it does not have twist, what i did at the time was use left controller l/r as bank
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:56 pm
by TigerRaptor
I canâ??t find my Descent Maximum CD or Iâ??d it my self. Out of curiosity can the Descent 2 level editor open the Playstation .hog file, and possible extract them into the PC version.
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:08 pm
by Spaceboy
d3 for ps2 ... cool! lol (i got a ps2 last week =P)
...how crappy is the framerate for descent maximum? unplayable, or just annoying?
Descent PSOne Combat Mode Levels
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:25 am
by Mickey1
Combat Mode
Mission select
Descent: First Strike
PSX Anarchy:1 Itsy, 2 Over the Top, 3 Bitsy, 4 Hunka Hunka Burnin' Lava, 5 Plasmatic Destruction Kit.
Total Chaos: 1 Mount Slagel, 2 Jalepeno, 3 Death from Above, 4 Southern Cross, 5 Bushwacker's Paradis
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:43 pm
by Kyouryuu
TigerRaptorFX wrote:I canâ??t find my Descent Maximum CD or Iâ??d it my self. Out of curiosity can the Descent 2 level editor open the Playstation .hog file, and possible extract them into the PC version.
Nope. Whatever they used for the HOG format on Descent and Descent Maximum is completely incompatible with any and all HOG tools and mission editors for the PC. It wouldn't surprise me if it was some minor difference, though.
Spaceboy wrote:...how crappy is the framerate for descent maximum? unplayable, or just annoying?
Depends on your tolerance. Personally, I think it's almost unplayable. I think it's definitely dipping into the 5-10 fps zone when there's enough combat happening. Chasing the infernal Thiefbot at that rate is quite bad. A long time ago, I e-mailed one of the Parallax gurus (maybe Dan Wentz) about the prospect of releasing the Descent Maximum levels as a "normal" Descent 2 level set. Nothing became of that, however. It's a shame, because some of those levels were kinda' cool in a simplistic way.