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Levee Breaks (Again)

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:13 am
by Iceman
This really sucks ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9438536/

[quote]â??Our worst fears came true,â?

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:32 am
by TheCope
Oofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:19 pm
by woodchip
I wonder if there will be a commission on how the Levee Board squandered all the money earmarked for the levee's from way back when.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:30 pm
by Iceman
From what I understand so far, that commission would be very, very busy.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:01 pm
by ccb056
Dozens of blocks in the Ninth Ward were under water as a waterfall at least 100 feet wide poured over and through a dike that had been used to patch breaks in the Industrial Canal levee.

First time I read that, I thought it said blacks. heh

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:10 pm
by snoopy
I know people hate to hear this said... but maybe it's time to throw in the towel on N.O. and just settle down elsewhere.... somewhere above sea level. The biggest argument anyone could have against abandoning the city is relocating everyone... but Katrina already did that. Why can't the people of New Orleans just settle down elsewhere... there isn't anything left there to go home to.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:13 pm
by Gooberman
Because N.O. has so much American History associated with it. People are sentimental about that stuff.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:48 pm
by dissent
Yeah, when NO was acquiring that American history, it was above sea level.

If people want to be real sentimental about it, then go ahead - as long as you're spending your own money.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:07 pm
by Beowulf
New Orleans is older than the US. It was French, Spanish, French again before becoming American. It's a tremendous loss. The centuries of culture are lost.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:53 pm
by WarAdvocat
Google!
Slate Magazine wrote:If New Orleans is below sea level, why isn't it underwater? Because it's protected by natural and artificial barriers. The city sits on the banks of the Mississippi, where sediment from the river had created areas of elevated land called "natural levees." New Orleans' earliest buildings sat on top of these levees, but as the population grew, houses were built farther inland at lower elevations. To create usable land, water had to be pumped out of the area, which in turn caused the ground to sink even lower. It's possible for part of New Orleans to exist below sea level because the levees that surround the city protect it (most of the time) from floods.
Detailed, indepth, cool history info here: (ctrl-f + "sea level" or just read your way through) Nu'Wallins Wiki!

Holy crap, this image is cool. A vertical cross section of New Orleans.... showing the "bowl". Neat!

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:23 pm
by Krom
Heh, I'm sooo surprised they broke again, really... :P

As soon as they said they would rebuild I knew they were gonna get pwnt again in less then a month. :P

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:44 pm
by Ned
make an exact replica 100 miles North

Better yet, make the oil companies stealing millions out of the mud actually INVEST in the area. Revolutionary?

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:06 pm
by Iceman
Yeah Krom, it doesn't really seem right that they are going to have to rebuild (at our expense) and it'll get obliterated again (at our expense) ... They should at least fill in the bowl and build above sea level.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:12 pm
by Couver_
The first flood was just a courtesy flush...

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:28 pm
by JMEaT
Couver_ wrote:The first flood was just a courtesy flush...
I'm sorry, but lol. :lol: :oops:

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:34 pm
by dissent
Ned wrote:make an exact replica 100 miles North
No argument here - get it a little further out of the flood plain.
Ned wrote:Better yet, make the oil companies stealing millions out of the mud actually INVEST in the area. Revolutionary?
Really, Ned ... stealing??? Fact is the oil companies pay bucketloads of taxes to local municipalities and provide beaucoup jobs. When gas prices are low and profits are tissue paper-thin and the companies are forced to pare lots of those better paying jobs, I don't hear anybody complaining about the economic problems that causes. Prices are high now because demand is high and supply is low. Increase supply or decrease demand. It really is that simple.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:06 pm
by Ned
Exxon just posted it's most profitable quarter of any corporation in HISTORY, with few infrastructure or safety improvements to the area, thus stealing.

Graceland
Dollywood
Seaworld
FrenchQuarterWorld (re-located to Shreveport)

(please no, icescapades, just bluemen)

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:26 am
by Behemoth
woodchip wrote:I wonder if there will be a commission on how the Levee Board squandered all the money earmarked for the levee's from way back when.
Actually, The money that was supposed to be granted to inforce the levees went to the war :roll:

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:47 pm
by snoopy
Which war?

I understand that there is a lot of history in NO, but at the same time, most of it has been destroyed. I guess I'm too analytical and unsentimental.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:40 pm
by Iceman
Behemoth wrote:
woodchip wrote:I wonder if there will be a commission on how the Levee Board squandered all the money earmarked for the levee's from way back when.
Actually, The money that was supposed to be granted to inforce the levees went to the war :roll:
You have no clue what you are talking about. The money went to the levee commission as it was supposed to. The levee commission squandered it on 'pork barrel' projects ... all of this will be documented in the upcoming investigations.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:07 pm
by Mobius
Couver_ wrote:The first flood was just a courtesy flush...
What the hell is a courtesy flush??

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:16 pm
by Phoenix Red
Mobius wrote:
Couver_ wrote:The first flood was just a courtesy flush...
What the hell is a courtesy flush??
I'm sorry, but TWO exclaimation points? How mongoloid! Correct usage of sentance-ending punctuation does NOT include multiples! You have massacred the english language. It is dead. It is being buried right now.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:21 pm
by Stryker
While we're at it, you could at least avoid mangling the body by referring to them as question marks instead of exclamation points. ;)

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:37 pm
by De Rigueur
Mobius wrote:
Couver_ wrote:The first flood was just a courtesy flush...
What the hell is a courtesy flush??
Did you see the first Austin Powers movie? The concept was used there in the toilet scene. I believe the 'courtesy flush' serves the purpose of diluting the 'foul and pestilent congregation of vapors' which may impede the serenity of the chap in the next stall.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:43 pm
by TechPro
I'm reminded of an old children's Sunday School song...

The wise man built his house on the rock....(blah blah)
The foolish man built his house on the sand... (blah blah)
The rains came down and the house on the rock stood still...

N.O. is sitting on river delta (river sand). Still... there is a lot of U.S. history there.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:16 am
by SilverFJ
The cajun built his house upon the swamp...
The cajun built his house upon the swamp...
The cajun built his house upon the swamp...

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:13 am
by Hostile
They should just knock down a couple of mountains and fill in the hole to make NO ABOVE sea level.... :P

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:21 am
by Behemoth
They should just nuke it and flush the toilet... :P

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:12 am
by Iceman
I agree with filling in the hole. Taxpayers are going to pay for the losses this time, next time, and the time after that ...