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High Defintion on DVD

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:42 pm
by Cyclone
I have seen a few dvds that say they were filmed in High Definition. But i'm wondering. Does that mean that the resolution on the dvd is in high definition(1080i)? If it is i doubt your average home theater dvd player could play it right? What about your computer could it play hd?

here is an example



thanks.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:09 pm
by Krom
It's a standard (720x480) DVD, filmed in HD means it was recorded using a HDTV camera which is considerably better then a standard TV camera, but no match for a 70MM film camera.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:11 pm
by Iceman
Uh ... If I am not mistaken ...

No way this can be true. Maybe it was filmed with HD but DVDs are not capable of reaching the resolution required of HD so DVD titles are resampled to a lower resolution when recorded to disk.

No?

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Krom u post to quick ...
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:18 pm
by Krom
Iceman wrote:[edit]
Krom u post to quick ...
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Ur too slow, beatcha by two minutes succa! ;) :P

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:00 pm
by MD-2389
Krom wrote:It's a standard (720x480) DVD, filmed in HD means it was recorded using a HDTV camera which is considerably better then a standard TV camera, but no match for a 70MM film camera.
Especially when you consider that 35mm film frames are roughly the equivilent of 4000 something scan lines.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:37 pm
by AceCombat
there are new DVD's out called "Super-Bit" DVDs. i just picked up a couple and they really are HDTV capable.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:55 pm
by fliptw
Its really a question of trade offs.

How long are those super-bit dvds?

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:05 pm
by MD-2389
AceCombat wrote:there are new DVD's out called "Super-Bit" DVDs. i just picked up a couple and they really are HDTV capable.
Super-bit has been around for a while and they are NOT 1080. I know this for a fact. *points to copy of "The Mask of Zorro*

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:12 am
by BUBBALOU
AceCombat wrote:there are new DVD's out called "Super-Bit" DVDs. i just picked up a couple and they really are HDTV capable.
Muhahahaha

There aren't any standard DVD's(9G) that play HDTV on standard DVD players ....acetool!

In fact to make a DVD look halfway decent on a HDTV;
you need a progressive-scan DVD player just to bump up the signal

once Blu-ray and HD-DVD hardware hit the streets, then yes we will wait for that media (30-50Gb discs)

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:27 pm
by MD-2389
Exactly. Your typical DVD (double-layer) only holds roughly 8.5GB of data. Now when you factor in 720x480 video, that gives you roughly four hours of video content. More if you compress it down. Storing a movie in HD (1920x1080) is likely going to only store maybe an hour if you're lucky. And all of this is assuming that they can even output the content!

Ace, I suggest you read this before you post about something you don't know about.

For the record, Superbit DVDs are REMASTERED content. They do the same thing with older movies. Take a look at the John Wayne DVDs if you need proof.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:20 pm
by Mobius
I recently purchased a National Geographic DVD about Egypt. The case contains two DVDs: one standard item, and one high definition WMV file for playback on the PC. The HD WMV file is simply stunning!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:14 pm
by Cyclone
I have recently come across that WMV HD stuff. Pretty amazing. Watched a few of the trailers. Hey Mobios where did you get that dvd, know of any others that are WMV HD? I have alreadyt seen all of the ones here.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... wcase.aspx

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:42 pm
by fyrephlie
BUBBALOU wrote:
AceCombat wrote:there are new DVD's out called "Super-Bit" DVDs. i just picked up a couple and they really are HDTV capable.
Muhahahaha

In fact to make a DVD look halfway decent on a HDTV;
you need a progressive-scan DVD player just to bump up the signal

once Blu-ray and HD-DVD hardware hit the streets, then yes we will wait for that media (30-50Gb discs)
the word new makes me laugh ... looking at a superbit of fifth element on ye old dvd rack. its a matter of compression, superbit does not contain excess crap (directors babbling, trailers for crap you don't care about, how they made the movie... which is usually must like most other movies) so they are as close to uncompressed as a DVD-9 will allow.

progress scan is no an upconversion except in those rare instances of 480 i pressed dvds... the movie that is on the disc is rarely interlaced, progressive scan players just take AWAY the interlacer and allow it to be displayed in full 480p (EDTV), for those few movies that actually come interlaced anymore, they do include a de-interlacer.

if you want to talk about upconversion look at the uber lame samsung 'hd' dvd player... man i hated selling those things.

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:43 pm
by fyrephlie
Cyclone wrote:I have recently come across that WMV HD stuff. Pretty amazing. Watched a few of the trailers. Hey Mobios where did you get that dvd, know of any others that are WMV HD? I have alreadyt seen all of the ones here.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... wcase.aspx
they did a Terminator 2 with the HD WMV of T2... all i could say was .... wow.