Page 1 of 1

98 or NT

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:08 am
by Isaac
I want windows on a low end sys (sd64mb pentIII500mhz) and i've seen nt run on a real crap box at work. It's going to run autocad 2005 (some how). I have windows 98 but i can get NT but i never have used it on my own machines.

Again it's going to be running Autodesk Autocad 2005 and CAN'T run on linux or unix.

It might run on win 98 but windows NT might be too heavy.

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:36 am
by Cuda68
If its on a low end box check out qcad on linux instead or even GraphiteOne it has 3D modeling.

Here is a rather detailed list of the many different CAD programs and what they are geared towards.

http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/index.html

Re:

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:45 am
by Isaac
Cuda68 wrote:If its on a low end box check out qcad on linux instead or even GraphiteOne it has 3D modeling.

Here is a rather detailed list of the many different CAD programs and what they are geared towards.

http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/index.html
Thanks but the school requires she uses autocad 2005.

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:41 pm
by Vindicator
AutoCAD 2005 System Requirements

* Intel® Pentium® III processor or later, 800 MHz
* Microsoft® Windows® XP (Professional, Home Edition, or Tablet PC Edition) or Windows 2000 Professional
* 256 MB RAM
* 300 MB free disk space for installation
* 1024x768 VGA with true color
* Mouse, trackball, or compatible pointing device
* Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0
* CD-ROM drive

I dunno how bloated Autocad has become, but with or without Autocad that machine will be choking on 64mb of RAM. Also it might not run on either of those OS's since theyre older (plus they arent listed on the recommended OS's). If you can get a copy of 2000 and another stick of RAM, you'd be in a better position i think. If forced to choose between 98 and NT I'd say NT would be better, since its, y'know, not 98. :P

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:10 pm
by Avder
98 is absolutely horrible. Avoid it like the plague. So Im going to ditto vindys answwer and say pick up some more ram for it and stick 2k on it.

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:28 pm
by Xamindar
but NT is worse than 98 so I guess it is a choice between the lesser of two evils.

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:16 pm
by MD-2389
I'd shoot for NT or 2000 if at all possible.

Re:

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:21 pm
by Krom
Xamindar wrote:but NT is worse than 98 so I guess it is a choice between the lesser of two evils.
I think you have those two mixed up.

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:55 am
by Top Wop
Dont care what you put on that rig, AutoCAD 2005 will choke on it. Obviously you want NT since it is geared towards business aps. Its not to say it will perform stellar, just that under 98 the hard drive would be grinding so hard it would bust at the seams.

Oh yea, and Linux cad programs are pure ★■◆●.

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:28 pm
by Mobius
Isaac, I have just delivered (this morning) a box I built specifically for Archi-CAD. Here are the specs:

Athlon 3700+ Venice
2GB DDR400
Gigabyte GA-K8NF9 nForce 4 Ultra
250GB SATA Seagate w/ NCQ
Radeon X850XT Gfx
(2x) Samsung 940N 19\" LCD

See the difference between your machine and this one?

Look, CAD in **ANY** form costs thousands of dollars. Archi-CAD is NZD $6,000 and that is HALF PRICE because he signed up for the updates and premium support at $100 a month!

Either your caompany is stealing CAD software or they're just plain stupid. You don't spend thousands of dollars on the latest CAD software and then install it on a PC that's best used as a boat anchor.

Just mental. No CAD program will run on that box. Simple as that, it just won't work. You'd drag a (very simple) model with maybe 1000 polygons, and it'd take 10 seconds to update the screen. Nope - your company is just gonna have to act like sane people, and spend $1500 on a machine on which to run their $5000 piece of software.

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:01 pm
by Krom
Thank you for sharing that bit of total nonsense with us Mobius. CAD has been around a lot longer then the high end Athlon 64. Though 2005 is asking a bit much, specially since it is not even compatible with 98 or NT4, it requires windows 2000 at the minimum, an older version of CAD will work just fine though.

Re:

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:28 pm
by Isaac
Vindicator wrote:AutoCAD 2005 System Requirements

* Intel® Pentium® III processor or later, 800 MHz
* Microsoft® Windows® XP (Professional, Home Edition, or Tablet PC Edition) or Windows 2000 Professional
* 256 MB RAM
* 300 MB free disk space for installation
* 1024x768 VGA with true color
* Mouse, trackball, or compatible pointing device
* Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0
* CD-ROM drive

I dunno how bloated Autocad has become, but with or without Autocad that machine will be choking on 64mb of RAM. Also it might not run on either of those OS's since theyre older (plus they arent listed on the recommended OS's). If you can get a copy of 2000 and another stick of RAM, you'd be in a better position i think. If forced to choose between 98 and NT I'd say NT would be better, since its, y'know, not 98. :P
It's not my stuff. I was just asked to do the installilng. She asked what os she should pick and i said, ' no idea i'll ask.' So far NT looks better.
Mobius wrote:Isaac, I have just delivered (this morning) a box I built specifically for Archi-CAD. Here are the specs:

Athlon 3700+ Venice
2GB DDR400
Gigabyte GA-K8NF9 nForce 4 Ultra
250GB SATA Seagate w/ NCQ
Radeon X850XT Gfx
(2x) Samsung 940N 19" LCD

See the difference between your machine and this one?

Look, CAD in **ANY** form costs thousands of dollars. Archi-CAD is NZD $6,000 and that is HALF PRICE because he signed up for the updates and premium support at $100 a month!

Either your caompany is stealing CAD software or they're just plain stupid. You don't spend thousands of dollars on the latest CAD software and then install it on a PC that's best used as a boat anchor.

Just mental. No CAD program will run on that box. Simple as that, it just won't work. You'd drag a (very simple) model with maybe 1000 polygons, and it'd take 10 seconds to update the screen. Nope - your company is just gonna have to act like sane people, and spend $1500 on a machine on which to run their $5000 piece of software.
Wow ur smart.
No it's the student ver... on a friends comp. thx

Krom wrote:Thank you for sharing that bit of total nonsense with us Mobius. CAD has been around a lot longer then the high end Athlon 64. Though 2005 is asking a bit much, specially since it is not even compatible with 98 or NT4, it requires windows 2000 at the minimum, an older version of CAD will work just fine though.
Yeah the first time i ever used cad was on a tandy that had less processing power than a gameboy (/exaggeration)

Re:

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:30 pm
by Isaac
asdfasdfkasjdflkasjd